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How I run ProntoEdit on Windows 10
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Post 1 made on Friday February 12, 2021 at 15:46
welchwarlock
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I used to run my pronto edit in XPMode on Windows 7, but that OS has come and gone. It took me a while, but I was able to find a new way to successfully run ProntoEdit in the current decade containing 2021. Here is what I did:
1) Download and Install vmware workstation player 16
[Link: store-us.vmware.com]
2) Created a Windows XP virtual machine matching the Window XP CD Image I had and ran.
3) Installed Windows XP in the virtual machine from my XP CD (an ISO image will work too)
4) Installed the VmWare tools (Facilitates mapping a folder between your computer and virtual machine).
5) Mapped one of my local machines directories as a shared folder in the Virtual XP machine. (Lets me backup my pronto files)
6) Connected the Pronto Remote
7) Instructed the VmWare application to disconnect the Pronto USB form my real machine, and connect to the virtual machine
8) Install the drivers in the virtual machine
9) Run Pronto Edit

At this point, each time you run the virtual XP machine, the only thing you have to do special is tell VmWare to pass the USB with the pronto remote through to the virtual machine.

I tried several other methods including Hyper V, and Virtual Box, but was never successful getting everything to work correctly where I could run ProntoEdit and modify my remote. If someone else has been successful, I would love to hear what they did.

I love my Pronto Pro, and I wish I had the source code as I would update it and make it usable directly on Windows 10.

I have looked for a more contemporary product, and have not found one. Is there anything close? I am not willing to switch until I find something that is BETTER than what I have.

I want a touch screen where I can design the buttons, and program the actions that the buttons have. I would like more hard buttons than the pronto NG has. I would like more battery life and a better screen.

I currently use two 7500s. I use one and keep one on the charger, alternating the units when the battery goes dead. I replaced the battery pack with AAA battery holder, and use cheap, but replaceable NiMh cells.

Happy Remoting!
WW
Post 2 made on Friday February 12, 2021 at 17:04
Lyndel McGee
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Thanks for the detailed notes.
Lyndel McGee
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Post 3 made on Friday February 12, 2021 at 22:13
buzz
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On February 12, 2021 at 15:46, welchwarlock said...
I have looked for a more contemporary product, and have not found one. Is there anything close? I am not willing to switch until I find something that is BETTER than what I have.

I want a touch screen where I can design the buttons, and program the actions that the buttons have. I would like more hard buttons than the pronto NG has. I would like more battery life and a better screen.

I’ve been using TouchControl. It’s iPad/iPhone only, so you’ll need to give up hard buttons other than Volume Up/Down. This is a very different type of platform and not for everyone. Mostly you’ll be limited by your imagination. You’ll get best results if you can use JavaScript. Buried deep down in some of my programs you’ll find bits and pieces of repurposed ProntoScript.

The hardware is much faster and screen interactions that are not practical with Pronto, are easy and responsive.
Post 4 made on Wednesday March 3, 2021 at 12:48
valenzu
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This is a truly interesting case. Thanks for sharing!
Post 5 made on Friday October 27, 2023 at 06:49
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I do what you do. VMware Fusion for Mac (same as the workstation product for PC)

My 980/990s are still trucking.
Post 6 made on Friday October 27, 2023 at 22:06
Lyndel McGee
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At one point Stuart Allen had posted the Java source code on Github for a project called Tonto. This was a replacement for TouchScreenSetup and ProntoEdit. It would also download firmware, IIRC.

That being said, that could likely easily be ported to a later Java as the Classic Prontos just used serial port libraries. However, for ProntoEditNG/ProntoEditProNG, use USB (NG remote line required custom driver for the TSU7000/7500 and used HID for the TSU3000/3500) so that would be more difficult.
Lyndel McGee
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OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday January 16, 2024 at 17:06
welchwarlock
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Congratulations on getting windows 10 to work. I had been doing that on windows 7 Also, but I gave up on getting a VM on Windows 10 to program the remote (I never could get the USB to pass through properly), and instead purchased an old Dell XP laptop that has USB ports. (this is the only app I run on it)There have been no other remotes made since these that are worth a crap, so I keep buying used ones on E-bay to keep spares readily available. I wish I could get hold of the Tonto source code and port it so it could run directly on windows 10/11.
Post 8 made on Wednesday January 17, 2024 at 19:14
Lyndel McGee
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On January 16, 2024 at 17:06, welchwarlock said...
I wish I could get hold of the Tonto source code and port it so it could run directly on windows 10/11.

Hop to it. Expect to see you done in a week or so. :-)

[Link: github.com]

Tonto will not work for ProntoEdit NG remotes, only the original Classic Pronto Line as they are know. This includes the TSU6000 and the Marantz RC9200 color versions as well as RC5200, TSU2000, TSU1000, and the Marantz deriviates - RC5000, RC5000i.

And with regard to the NG line, the TSU3000 used standard windows HID drivers but the TSU7000/7500 required a custom driver file that is available on the CD.
Lyndel McGee
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Post 9 made on Wednesday July 24, 2024 at 10:39
kevin Donovan
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Hi, I guess there aren't many of us pronto users left :>(. Anyway, if anyone can help I'd appreciate it. I haven't had to tinker with my pronto for a few years. Last time I ran pronto edit in xp mode using oracle VM, on my windows 10 laptop. I remember it being a bit of a nightmare but got it working in the end. Now I have windows 11, installed xp mode the same way, but proto edit won't install, I get a message saying that it can't be installed on this operating system, please install on win 98/ME/XP. If anyone is reading this, and has managed to get it working on windows 11 I'd appreciate the help.
Post 10 made on Wednesday July 24, 2024 at 17:44
Lyndel McGee
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What remote do you have? If it is a TSU9400, TSU9600 then you are in the wrong forum. Try the Pro Forum where there are specific installation instructions for running Pronto Edit Professional (PEP2/PEP3) on Windows 10/11.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

If you have a TSU7000/7500, then I cannot help you there. I do know the 7000 series used the PPENG ProntoEditPro NG editor.

Again, which remote and which editor? The title of this thread includes ProntoEdit but that editor was for the Classic Prontos (another forum) specifically the TSU1000/2000/6000 remotes.

There are many different flavors of Pronto!
Lyndel McGee
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Post 11 made on Thursday July 25, 2024 at 06:20
kevin Donovan
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Sorry for the lack of detailed info, I have a TSU7000 and an RU990, I'm not sure why the different model numbers, they're virtually identical. I'm trying to install Philips ProntoProEdit NG v2.1.8. I believe I'm in the correct forum?

Last edited by kevin Donovan on July 25, 2024 06:39.
Post 12 made on Thursday July 25, 2024 at 10:47
raiders_fan94
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Hey Kevin,

You're in the right forum. I don't know how much this helps, but I also have a TSU7000. I'm running Win10 and am using VMWare Workstation 15 with the XP Pro installation. I am running PP Edit NG v.2.1.8.1.

This may not help since I'm not using Win11. Maybe try a new XP install or try moving to VMWare?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Post 13 made on Thursday July 25, 2024 at 16:49
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Thanks, I'll try that.
Post 14 made on Thursday July 25, 2024 at 17:55
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On July 25, 2024 at 10:47, raiders_fan94 said...
Hey Kevin,

You're in the right forum. I don't know how much this helps, but I also have a TSU7000. I'm running Win10 and am using VMWare Workstation 15 with the XP Pro installation. I am running PP Edit NG v.2.1.8.1.

This may not help since I'm not using Win11. Maybe try a new XP install or try moving to VMWare?

Thank you so much, that worked perfectly!
Post 15 made on Thursday July 25, 2024 at 19:03
Lyndel McGee
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@Raiders_Fan - Thanks so much for the quick reply.

@Kevin With regard to differences between US and EU models

RU990 is the EU model of the Pronto and 7000 is the US model.

This difference matters if you are using an RF Extender. See this link for more details.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

So your EU model cannot communicate with a US RF Extender and vice versa.

The internal built-in database may also be slightly different but that is of less importance.
Lyndel McGee
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