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PS3 the way to go?
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Post 1 made on Saturday July 5, 2008 at 18:31
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So is it safe to say that a PS3 is the way to go for blue ray player? Or is it REALLY worth the money to go with a Denon DVD-2500.

I also heard and read that for normal DVD's I should use a upconverting DVD player as appose to a Blue ray or X box 360. Is this true? Or will the PS3 or Denon be a good player for all my media.
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Post 2 made on Sunday July 6, 2008 at 18:46
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All of the BD players upconvert DVDs as well. But the quality does vary. I know the PS3 is rated pretty good - not as good as the BEST upconverters, but quite respectable.
Post 3 made on Sunday July 20, 2008 at 17:25
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I bought the PS3 for one reason.

It's upgradeable. Not many other stand alone players in the same price range have the upgrade capabilities that the PS3 has.

A big downfall is the remote issue. Looks like that is slowly being taken care of but still causes havoc for now.
Post 4 made on Tuesday July 29, 2008 at 18:32
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I've had my 40GB PS3 over a month now and it has been great. I just kick myself for not purchasing it sooner. I was a rather "die hard" HD DVD fan, but have to say that I've smoothly made the transition to Blu and, if anything, I'm actually liking it better due to the PS3's smooth, quick, and reliable operation.

Last night I watched National Treasure: Book of Secrets and upon loading the disc, it warned it might take 2-3 minutes to load due to Java. I didn't time it, but it couldn't have been over 20 or 30 seconds. I've probably watched about 10 Blu-ray movies, including Netflix rentals and I haven't had one problem. Considering the other features of the PS3 (media server, game console, free game demo & movie trailer downloads, movie rentals, Folding at Home, etc.), this is one of the best purchases I've made in awhile. Oh yeah, I love how I'm able to resume most HD movies after stopping them (something I couldn't do with my HD DVD players).

If there is a downside, it is the lack of an IR remote, but I bought a Nyko for $10, plugged in the dongle, learned the codes into my URC remote and it has been working great. I can't turn on the PS3 with my remote, but inserting a movie turns it on anyway. And with the 2.41 upgrade I can now turn off the PS3 without getting up or using the game controller.

Awesome!
Post 5 made on Wednesday August 6, 2008 at 18:08
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The PS3, right now, has the best value for a blu-ray. It's faster in loading time than any other one I have worked with. It now can internally decode lossless audio into PCM. Up-scaling is decent, but really not watching any DVD's anymore. And having the ethernet/wireless capability makes it constantly current. I have yet to work with a better blu-ray player overall. Can really make a home theater into home entertainment. Makes everyone happy.

Yes the only issue is the control of it. But for now, that really isn't a big deal to me. The upside out weighs the downside.
Post 6 made on Thursday August 7, 2008 at 12:09
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On July 29, 2008 at 18:32, Chad T said...
If there is a downside, it is the lack of an IR remote,
but I bought a Nyko for $10, plugged in the dongle, .....And with the 2.41 upgrade
I can now turn off the PS3 without getting up or using
the game controller.

Chad, how are you turning off the ps3 via your universal remote and the nyko? Is it a multi-stepped menu sequence or a single button press that you can or have incorporated into a macro?
Post 7 made on Thursday August 7, 2008 at 15:40
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There is a option in the system menu now for powering down the system. It is in the user options.
Post 8 made on Thursday August 7, 2008 at 15:56
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Thank you, as a non-owner can you tell me how that is accomplished via the remote once the option is enabled in the menu?
Post 9 made on Thursday August 7, 2008 at 18:57
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On August 7, 2008 at 15:56, tweeterguy said...
Thank you, as a non-owner can you tell me how that is
accomplished via the remote once the option is enabled
in the menu?

I don't know of a way to incorporate it into a macro. When using the PS3, I'm usually in the Blu-ray/PS3 activity on my URC 980 anyway, so I separately shut down the PS3 via the PS3 system menu, then power down everything else in the system with a power off macro.

Not ideal, but I deal with it because of all of the other positive attributes of the PS3. The PS3 is my only piece of AV equipment that is non-discrete.

I could look into one of the BT/IR converters, but to me it just isn't worth $50 to $100.
Post 10 made on Friday August 8, 2008 at 11:29
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So it sounds like it's a series of menu commands that you are sending via IR. Is this repeatable in nature from anywhere in the system. i.e. can you reliably press the same buttons to get the same result every time no matter where you are in the menu or disc playback?

Forgive me, I'm not sure if you are a consumer or installer. I'm looking at this from a custom installation point of view. Maybe I need to play around with one in more depth. Now just have to convince the wife I need YET ANOTHER TOY!
Post 11 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 03:56
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The power off macro for USB-based remotes is simple. Simply send 8 LEFT, 2 UP and 2 OK and it will turn the PS3 off from wherever on the XMB you are. It's not so simple if you're in a game or a movie.
Post 12 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 15:10
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We could automate that sequence for sure. Being mid-game/movie does pose a problem. There's no repeatable way to get to the XMB from there?
Post 13 made on Friday September 12, 2008 at 16:34
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On August 10, 2008 at 15:10, tweeterguy said...
We could automate that sequence for sure. Being mid-game/movie
does pose a problem. There's no repeatable way to get
to the XMB from there?

Hi tweeterguy,

I have the IR4PS3, essentially a box about the size of a pack of cigarettes that receives IR signals and applies them to BT emitting circuit board. The circuit board has been removed from a Sony BT OEM remote for the PS3. This assures that it will always work with the PS3 just as the OEM remote will always work.

It is discussed at: [Link: remotecentral.com]

I would observe that the article is slightly out of date and the packaging is nicer and easier then discussed.

Whether in a game or watching a BD or in the XMB it is a one click command to power down the PS3.

Bottom line is that every single button on the OEM remote is now controlled by my Harmony remote. I gave away my USB dongle.
Post 14 made on Friday September 12, 2008 at 21:30
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On September 12, 2008 at 16:34, SaltiDawg said...
Whether in a game or watching a BD or in the XMB it is
a one click command to power down the PS3.

Quoted from the article you linked to:


While this goes a long way towards creating reliable discrete operation under most situations, the PS3 makes it impossible to bulletproof as shutdown involves multiple steps using a menu whose options change, depending on whether a game is being played or not. If the macro is triggered from within a game, or if the console is turned off manually, it canít work correctly.


Tweet is a CI Salti.... Although good enough for home use, an end user like you or myself, the IR4PS3 (or any other of the current work arounds) just simply isn't a bulletproof solution for CIs. It's all about the service call for these guys.

On a side note... This is honestly the first time I noticed a regular from the Harmony forum venturing outside that clique. Welcome to RC...lol. sooo kidding.
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Post 15 made on Saturday September 13, 2008 at 09:05
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On September 12, 2008 at 21:30, smokinghot said...
Quoted from the article you linked to:


While this goes a long way towards creating reliable discrete
operation under most situations, the PS3 makes it impossible
to bulletproof as shutdown involves multiple steps using
a menu whose options change, depending on whether a game
is being played or not. If the macro is triggered from
within a game, or if the console is turned off manually,
it canít work correctly.


Tweet is a CI Salti.... Although good enough for home
use, an end user like you or myself, the IR4PS3 (or any
other of the current work arounds) just simply isn't a
bulletproof solution for CIs. It's all about the service
call for these guys.


On a side note... This is honestly the first time I noticed
a regular from the Harmony forum venturing outside that
clique. Welcome to RC...lol. sooo kidding.

In my post I said, in part, "I would observe that the article is slightly out of date and the packaging is nicer and easier then discussed.

Whether in a game or watching a BD or in the XMB it is a one click command to power down the PS3."

I was correct in both of those statements. In fact, whether watching a movie, in the PS3 Menu, or playing a game, the PS3 turns off when I leave the Harmony Activity or when I Power all down. The article is indeed "old" and mistaken, as I said.

I apologize, but I don't know what a CI is but the IR4PS was a nice improvement over my old USB dongle and the IR4PS3 can be located anywhere in IR "sight" of the remote without regard to position re the pS3 because it makes those communications via BT.

Thanks for the welcome.
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