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How would I connect an extra powered sub to a bose lifestyle system?
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Post 1 made on Saturday October 6, 2001 at 22:52
Cruel^Intentions
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I was wondering if anyone out there would have an idea of connecting a seperate powered sub, to a bose lifestyle system, I want to keep the system as it is, not replace the "mass module".
The bose has plenty, i stress that PLENTY of bass in my situation, but, when you have the volume up louder, it just stays the same and the "lil" cubes increase their volume, I cant hear much bass increase what so ever!
I only find this at very high levels, and I do like my music to have some bass in it, so, Im thinking of adding this extra sub I just got...
Your comments and help would be very much appreciated.
ciao

This message was edited by Cruel^Intentions on 10/06/01 23:06.24.
Post 2 made on Saturday October 6, 2001 at 22:59
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Which Lifestyle system do you have?
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday October 6, 2001 at 23:10
Cruel^Intentions
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I have 2 (sad of me) the 50 and the 25.
I plan for the sub to go onto the 25, since it wont fit in the other room, and I will more than likely move the 50.
So ill put it on the 25, bose suggested some cords they can provide, but, not too sure if i can get them...
thanks
Post 4 made on Sunday October 7, 2001 at 01:12
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Hey, C. I.,

If the sub has speaker-level inputs, try parallelling them with the front left and right satellites.

Larry
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday October 7, 2001 at 05:17
Cruel^Intentions
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Hey, thanks for that Larry, any other ideas would be appreciated...
Im a little new to connecting a sub to different system, so any help is good.
Once again, thanks.
ciao
Post 6 made on Monday October 8, 2001 at 16:09
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You'll need a Zone Splitter & a Zone 2 cable to accomplish this with your Lifestyle 25 system. On the back of your music center (Sliver piece w/CD changer) you'll see two DIN type connections that are labeled Zone 1 & Zone 2. Your Acoustimass Module should be connected to Zone 1 currently. You take the Zone Splitter, plug it in Zone 1 & plug the Acoustimass Module in one side and the powered Sub into the other side via Zone 2 cable (DIN to RCA). This will allow both the Acoustimass Module and the Sub to receive a variable pre-amp signal.

Any problems, questions and/or to order the Zone Splitter- call either 800-444-2673 or 800-644-2673

Hope this helps!

Sonicflood

This message was edited by Sonicflood on 10/08/01 16:24.13.
Post 7 made on Monday October 8, 2001 at 16:21
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On 10/07/01 01:12.43, Larry Fine said...
Hey, C. I.,

If the sub has speaker-level inputs, try parallelling
them with the front left and right satellites.

Larry

This is a valid idea with a 'conventional' system, but will not work because the outputs for the speakers from the Acoustimass Module do NOT contain the bass frequencies. The crossover is in the Acoustimass Module, so the speaker outputs only convey upper-end frequencies.

Here's the flow:

Lifestyle Music Center Zone 1 Output---> Acoustimass Bass Module crossover--->
Bass Frequencies---> Internal 5.25 drivers (2)
Non-Bass Frequencies---> Left, Right, Center, Left Surround, Right Surround Cube Speakers
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday October 9, 2001 at 05:22
Cruel^Intentions
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Thank you Sonicflood.
You sure know a lot about all this, your a great help!
Just a question, is there any way to do it, without using the zone 2 output?
Im not currently using it, but intend to use that a bit later...
Anyway, thanks again!
ciao
Post 9 made on Wednesday October 10, 2001 at 22:34
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On 10/09/01 05:22.35, Cruel^Intentions said...
Thank you Sonicflood.
You sure know a lot about all this, your a great
help!
Just a question, is there any way to do it, without
using the zone 2 output?
Im not currently using it, but intend to use that
a bit later...
Anyway, thanks again!
ciao

You DON'T want to use the Zone 2 output for connecting the Sub. You'll use a Zone Splitter with the Zone 1 output. This (splitter) will turn your single output into two outputs. It's akin to a Y connector. The Zone 2 cable has the DIN connection on one end and RCA connections on the other. You'll use the RCA connections for your Sub. It's just called a Zone 2 cable, it does not have to plug into the Zone 2 output. Your Zone 2 output will still be open for future use! :)

Sorry about the delay in responding, my monitor died yesterday. :( Using a borrowed one until the replacement arrives.

I'm here to help if you need me!

Sonicflood


This message was edited by Sonicflood on 10/10/01 22:38.18.
OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday October 23, 2001 at 05:51
Cruel^Intentions
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Thanks, I knew about the cable I could use, but never knew where I could get one, or what they were called/look like...
Thank you for your time anyway.
Hope you have a bit more luck with your new monitor.
ciao
Post 11 made on Thursday October 25, 2001 at 01:34
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Im not a fan of Bose!! Im assuming that the mass module is a passive sub because the volume will not increase with the volume of the other speakers. Thats all I've ever seen in a Bose system anyway. Plug your powered sub into the sub preout (RCA)if one exists and your in business but then again that would be to simple right??...JT

What Im assuming is that there isnt a preout correct??I think that line level passive subs (subs hooked up inline with your front main speakers) SUCK!!!
These Bose systems are limitted to a very small apartment or your bedroom and I hope your not using it as your main system in your large living room.....JT

This message was edited by Urfeckless on 10/25/01 02:22.28.
Post 12 made on Thursday October 25, 2001 at 02:13
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Ur, I don't disagree with your passive-sub position, but I would like to point out that passive subs with satellite pass-through (what you described) use crossover components just like any three- or four-way speaker systems, with inductors and/or capacitors.

Larry
Post 13 made on Thursday October 25, 2001 at 02:31
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Don't limit yourself to low pass or high pass filters that are fixed in line level speaker systems (or receivers for that matter). Take complete control and either get a pre-amp with line level control or a more expensive powered sub with the added flexibility and control thats most importantly dealt with entirely on its own.
Post 14 made on Thursday October 25, 2001 at 11:06
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UR, I personally do have fairly 'complete' control. My speakers are the original Definitive Technology BP-2000's, a CLR-2000 center, BP-X sides, BP-20 rears. My signal handling is done by a B&K AVP-4090 pre-pro, and the power is supplied by a Sunfire Stereo (300W x 2) on the mains, and a Cinema Grand (200W x 5) on the center, sides, and rears. Oh, yeah, I use a Sony DPL decoder for rear-center extraction.

The BP-2000's have powered subs (300W ea.), with line-level inputs, and the B&K has LFE outs, so I think my signals are being handled adequately. I was merely pointing out that almost all speakers, even those with removeable links and are bi- or tri-wired, have the same type of "fixed in line level" high- and low-pass filters that you disdain.

I'm very familiar with active crossovers and multi-amp systems. Most people don't realize that the speakers' crossover components should be bypassed when multi-amp setups are used, because, beside interfering with the active crossover's settings,they also prevent the amps from controlling the drivers' movements outside the respective frequency ranges. (Known as 'damping')

Larry
Post 15 made on Thursday October 25, 2001 at 22:25
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Thats a great system and the center surrounds are a nice touch. What you have mentioned is exactly what IM talking about. Thanks for pointing out my disdain. I was just merely pointing out the obvious.....JT
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