I know that Luxul got a bad rap here over 10 years ago, but that seems to have settled down. I want to deploy 2 of these hi power access points in this home, maybe 3.

In my limited experience with Luxul, primarily their managed POE switches in JAP systems, Luxul has been pretty solid

Anyone have any direct experience with these?

I plan to use their XWR-3150 WiFi router as the controller, hopefully using 1 SSID throughout the entire house, with the intent to have the router controller deal with the hand offs.

I would uses Eero and I've deployed a few Eero systems but the Eeros don't have the range that the Luxuls have (at least from what I've heard and read)

I know some prefer Ubiquiti, but I had a few bad experiences with Ubiquiti 5-7 years ago which left me a bad taste.

Just 1 question.
Has Luxul updated their product to allow you to adjust power levels on the WAPs now?

If the answer is still no then.... DO NOT USE LUXUL.

Which WAPs allow power output control ( other than Cisco)?

Ubiquiti/Unifi.

We've used Eero in homes up to 9500 sq. ft. We decided to take a hammer to all of our Luxul about 3-4 years ago when they:

Had a bad batch of 1510s...we had 9 go bad in a VERY short time. They said "We haven't heard of that". Later...problem was acknowledged.

Had a throttling issue with their WiFi controller. We were getting 1/4th the speed with their router, controller, AP solution that we should have. After swapping access points, cables, etc., and MULTIPLE calls with Luxul we ended up swapping for an Eero...BAM. 200+ Mbps down became 800+ Mbps down.

They later acknowledged that there was a throttling issue. It looks like this may have been resolved with a firmware update as clients on Domotz/Luxul that were getting 100+ down now are getting 400+ with the same service speed.

They were always very responsive with their tech support but after having multiple issues on multiple jobs, we pulled a Roberto Duran...NO MAS.

I was a big Luxul kool-aid drinker when they said they had partnered with URC. We went all in. Big mistake. It's all garbage at this point.

The routers don't play nice with starlink installs.

The new SW series switches fail often. And I'm not even sure they are available anymore.

The access points have no way to make any meaningful adjustment through the "wifi controller" It's an expensive firmware update tool.

Since we switched to Ruckus Unleashed access points and followed the guide that Blackwire provides for best practice settings, we've been pretty rock solid on our networks.

John, I might be taking you down a rabbit hole, but using “high power access points“ doesn’t appeal to me as much as it once did.

I got fired up when guys were saying they could do an entire home with one Ruckus high power access point. I found you could indeed get coverage throughout a good sized home, but people on iPads and iPhones did not have that kind of power to talk back to the access point, and it made whole house coverage not such good coverage.

I am currently putting Eero in for my clients because it is as close to trouble free as I can find. Proper placement of course is essential.

'Ive done several Eero systems. Even the newer ones sometimes need to be reset as they go off line. Regardless, they do work well but as you stated Tom, they aren't very high power and you need to use a lot of them to cover a large home. The present home I'm pre wiring also has an active back yard probably 60' wide x 30-40' deep (30-40' away from the house). I cannot place any electronics outside (this is coastal salt air and anything outside will fail within 18 months) so adding an Eero WAP outside is out of the question.

I don't mind using an Eero system but I fear I will only cover about 20' from the house in the back yard with Eero.

I guess I could add a hi power WAP inside on a different SSID for outdoor activity and have Eero take care of all the indoor.and routing.

We've got a job where the Eero closest to outside is providing decent coverage about 60 YARDS away. Their stuff is way too cheap for what it does. Some of the other tools they have added make troubleshooting network drops VERY easy when compared to many other systems out there.

P.S. The "auto-updates" promised doesn't always work. Keep this in mind when using Eero.

Prewire to a couple wall locations adjacent to that yard.  Start with Eero and see what you get. Adjust later with other options if needed.

I saw ubiquiti has a new express unit, looks to be similar to eero with more features like vpn where eero doesn’t.

[Link: ui.com]

It does limit total devices to 5, so a router and 2 additional expresses and 2 switches or access points.

I think for a smaller job it would fit the bill similar to eero

I am doing that today. I'm surprised you've gotten that kind of range out of Eero WAPs. My experience is that they don't reliably broadcast more than a 30' radius.

But I will have wired for 4 access points in this house and can also put one by the controller/router in the data closet, for a total of 5 WAPS on one SSID, which should do a nice job of coverage. 2 of the WAPs will be inside the house right next to the outside wall adjacent to the back yard (1 on the South side, 1 on the north side). If I can get 30-40' out into the yard, it will cover all of the areas where the client will be hanging out (fire pit, hot tube, seating areas).

I am using the PRo 6 WAPs I wish these could be powered by a POE switch, so I wouldn't need a power outlet near each WAP.

You don’t like the POE 6 units? Pretty clean. Used to have to fit a Pro5 in that dopey adapter case.  POE 6 is snazzy.

Amazon eero PoE 6, ceiling/wall-mountable dual-band Wi-Fi 6 access point | PoE-powered | AC adapter not included [Link: a.co]

I used Luxul for many years. Had a few bad experiences but found them to be more reliable than the other margin friendly brand I had previously worked with (Pakedge). Have 4-6 large resi networks out there with 1610s that I haven't heard any complaints about.

A few years ago I started migrating all of my switchgear over to Araknis. Last 3-4 larger resi network jobs I used their APs too. So far, so good.

Eero does work pretty well and is easy to monitor but their "we offer POE APs, oh, no we don't, oh, yes we do" thing annoyed me.

That and (like Ubiquiti) Eero is difficult to make any money on.

Pakedge to Luxul to Araknis sounds like a networking horror movie. You can make money on Eero simply because you don't lose money on it. It does not cause problems. Spread it out, hide it, whatever, it just works. That (what works) is the best networking gear out there. If you want more money, come up with an RMR plan for it.

Why was this dredged up again?