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Who would be interested in a "real" IR control solution for the PS3?
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Post 76 made on Friday January 11, 2008 at 19:40
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Also Ben, in your testing, how well does "simulating" discrete power on/off using macros work out?
Post 77 made on Friday January 11, 2008 at 20:18
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On January 11, 2008 at 18:38, The Others said...
This is the case. The Sony BD remote will be somewhere
in the rack it will act as a bridge between your PDA and
the PS3. You will not have to manipulate it.

Same for me with my Harmony 880.

Not so sure about that. The Sony OS is expecting the 'Sony
BD Remote for PS3' ID when synching the device with the
PS3.

Why 'Guitar Heroes III for PS3' is not BlueTooth? Could
it be that Sony wants to keep some of the BlueTooth feature
proprietary? I don't have the answer to this. If there
is someone out there that has successfully used a non-Sony
BlueTooth device (excluding keyboard/mouse) than I'm wrong.

Oh, thank you for the explanation. Guess I misunderstood the original concept.

I might be interested as well.
Post 78 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 14:10
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Why 'Guitar Heroes III for PS3' is not BlueTooth?

my Guess is that it has more to do with Activision then Sony. a USB dongle makes it easy to have one HW for several platforms. If you compare the PS3 and 360 guitar you will see it is the same one.
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Post 79 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 16:51
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You can use bluetooth headsets with the PS3, so I would assume anything else BT should work with it also.
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Post 80 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 19:34
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On January 11, 2008 at 19:40, dinom said...
Also Ben, in your testing, how well does "simulating"
discrete power on/off using macros work out?

December revision was so so for the Power OFF. I then realized the Logitech Harmony was sending the sequence 'PS for 2 seconds + X + X' too quickly. In fact once in a while the PS3 OS was not seeing one of the 'X'. Unfortunately Logitech SW was not allowing extending the 2 'X' duration.

To solve this, my logic receives the discreet PowerOFF and will properly delay all required steps. Now it is successful 100% of the time.

The remote I shipped to Daniel Tonks do use my latest code. He will certainly comment on that.

As I wrote previously 'Power ON' is a no issue.

I'm currently writing the documentation. All that will be explained.
Post 81 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 19:48
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On January 12, 2008 at 16:51, ATOH said...
You can use bluetooth headsets with the PS3, so I would
assume anything else BT should work with it also.

This is true also for the headset.

However Google is clueless for 'PS3 bluetooth remote control'. All search points towards Sony BD remote, nothing else.

Even the BlueTooth Ricavision Vave100 remote control still doesn't work with the PS3. It looks like it's not that simple! This is the main reason I decide to mod the Sony HW vs designing from scratch BlueTooth HW. Was way cheaper by this factor $$$$$ too :).

Ben
Post 82 made on Sunday January 13, 2008 at 15:09
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You can use bluetooth headsets with the PS3, so I would assume anything else BT should work with it also.

keyboards as well
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Post 83 made on Wednesday January 16, 2008 at 15:04
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For those of us that want an integrated solution, has anyone looked into a serial to bluetooth adapter?
Post 84 made on Wednesday January 16, 2008 at 20:37
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Well, I have just come across this thread, and I want one! Sadly though, I am in the UK. However, if you ever get to a point where you will ship overseas, I will be right there with an order!

Oh, and as for the question about GH3 not being bluetooth, I think that was an Activision issue. I believe (though I may be shot down for this) that the Rock Band guitar operates via Bluetooth. Again, us UK owners are hammered though as Rock Band will not be out over here for months, so I can't verify that!
Post 85 made on Wednesday January 16, 2008 at 23:06
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On December 4, 2007 at 00:05, Daniel Tonks said...
Just looking to see if there would be interest in a "real"
infrared control solution for the PS3. It would offer
all of the current functionality of the 51-button Sony
bluetooth remote, including powering on the system, but
via any infrared remote or control system.

I'm sure you can find statistics about how many PS3s
have shipped - I'll bet at least 1 out of every 2 would
prefer an IR remote to Bluetooth - IF you can do all
the functions.
OP | Post 86 made on Wednesday January 16, 2008 at 23:30
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I have the modified remote in my hands, and it works great via my Pronto and MX-800. I'll be doing a writeup on it...
Post 87 made on Wednesday January 16, 2008 at 23:54
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Dan

any word on a ship date?

Does it has discrete on and off?

If a ps3 is located in the rack, how would the usb be handled? I know liberty makes an active usb extender but wonder about lag. my rack is just outside my room. about 15-20' tops. would the controlers work?
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OP | Post 88 made on Thursday January 17, 2008 at 01:05
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First - there is no USB! It's completely wireless Bluetooth! (Well, wireless unless you want to plug in a DC power adaptor so you don't have to fuss with batteries.)

1) There are NO wires to run to the PS3 at all. No USB, no wired "sticker" over the power key.

2) The remote can be placed anywhere within Bluetooth range of the PS3 - only the IR receiver at the front of the remote needs to be visible to your universal remote.

3) In a rackmount situation using an IR repeater or an RF remote with IR distribution, you'd simply put the remote somewhere hidden back in your rack and place an IR sticky over the remote's IR receiver. It can then be completely invisible.

4) Discrete power control is generally impossible since the Bluetooth remote does not have this capability natively, and the added circuit has no way of knowing whether the PS3 is on or off. With that said - any press of any key will turn the PS3 on, just like the Bluetooth remote. Discrete off is a bit trickier, but an "auto off" routine has been included which will automatically play a macro back (from within the remote) that sends the commands necessary to turn the PS3 off. However, if the PS3 is already off then the "auto off" will end up turning it on. There was simply no way to improve this situation.
Post 89 made on Thursday January 17, 2008 at 07:09
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Actually, you can improve the situation by using a control system from RTI or URC that has power or video sensing. That way you only issue the off command when the unit is on.
Post 90 made on Thursday January 17, 2008 at 07:11
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Also, assuming Daniel's review is positive, when will these be ready for others to purchase? I just got my 40 GB PS3 and am looking to integrate it with my RTI remote and the rest of my home theater system.

Dino
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