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Post 1 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 03:16
texas_ags
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Hello all. I have searched the site and now I'm more confused. Have a TSU3000 and a new Samsung DLP TV, model HLN-437W which I purchased in May.

I found the discrete codes for Samsung HLN series TVs on the site and the only ones that seem to work ore the ON and OFF discrete codes. I need the input codes to work too.

Can anyone help me? I'm a relative novice, but I do know how to paste the long IR codes into the device.

Oh and if it matters I've also tried to use others' CCFs which claim to have the discrete codes in them. Again only the ON and OFF functions work.

Any help would be appreciated.
Post 2 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 10:27
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Unfortunately the news isn't good. If your TV is responding to the power commands but not the input commands, chances are you have an older version of the firmware. To check the firmware press the following buttons in order carefully: With TV on, press Power-mute-1-8-2-power. This will bring you into the service menu. To exit this menu, turn the TV off for 30 seconds. On the bottom of the screen is a long number. The last 3 digits of that number is the firmware version. Versions 214 and higher have discrete input selection, while 209-213 only have discrete power. Chech this out first we can go from there.
DO NOT make any changes to the setting in the service unless you know exactly what you are doing. Changing things in the menu can result in a dead TV.

Jason
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 11:53
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Jason,

I tried that (based on reading another of your replies (thank you)) and found weird numbers, this is what I found in total at the bottom of the screen: VER: T-MLB50NUS-1030.

So if the last three numbers should be 2XX, am I in real trouble?

And here's another question... I think I have the last HLN437W in the city from Circuit City where I bought it. 3 weeks in I had to have the bulb replaced. After much discussion with the CC people I was given another month return with no questions asked option. That ends very soon.

Do you think I should just return it? One of my problems though is that space. They, Samsung, will no longer make the 43 inch version (I'm told), so I don't believe the newer 46 inch will fit, plus it's about $1000 more. I paid $2400.

Any more thoughts would be appreciated.

JOYCE
Post 4 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 12:00
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The firmware version does not need to start with a 2. There are lots of firmware revisions out there an it seems every shipment has new firmware in it. Does the model number end with a W1? This could be one of the interim models between the hln and the hlp sets, or this could be an old b-stock unit. Based on your post above, the firmware is either version 10.3 or 1.03. I have a 43" coming in for a customer Monday. I will double check the codes then and let you know if maybe this last shipment has a different codeset. Can you wait until next week, or does the time run out to return it?

Jason
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 15:27
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Jason,
So are you saying that there might be a different discrete codeset for the input channels?

I don't see a 1 at the end of the model number on my receipt, but seems like I did see that somewhere, maybe on the TV back or the warranty card? I could also look on the back of the TV to see what manufacture date might be there, right?

I have until 7/16 to return it... but I will be out of town, so I'd have to know something by the 8th or so.

Do you know anything about the new 46 inch model? I saw one at Ultimate Electronics that said something like "new thinner bezel." Which essentially meant that it had less plastic around the screen and measured 40.5 inches across. I believe I have just 41 inches and the HLN437W that I have is 41 inches exactly. It sits out just a little currently.

Pretty much I could wait for the 46 in DLP with the new bezel to come down in price if I need to... Just need to return this one.

Maybe I'll go over to Ultimate Electronics with my pronto and check that the discrete codes work first.

Joyce
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 19:45
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Jason,
I checked the back of the TV, it says model number HLN437W. No 1, but there is a 1 at the end of that on the warranty card.

Also on the back it says manufactured in March 2004. And below that somewhere it says Version 2.

OP | Post 7 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 23:14
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Okay my last follow up until Jason or some kind soul sees fit to reply:

When I am using an input channel on the TV other than antenna, I cannot even get the TV (using it's remote) to go to an antenna channel by typing in a channel number?

I was thinking if there was a way to get it to an antenna channel, then I could use a macro to step it through the input modes/channels to the right one for each of my components.

I just can't believe a high end TV like this doesn't accept the discrete codes for inputs. Why make it work for the ON and OFF then? Annoying.
Post 8 made on Thursday July 1, 2004 at 23:58
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I would be willing to bet that your TV has discrete codes, we just need to find them. I have a 43" that should be here any day for a client and I will take it out and do a code search as soon as I get it. Tuesday night at the latest.

Jason
OP | Post 9 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 00:32
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Excellent. Thank you Jason.

Joyce
Post 10 made on Tuesday July 6, 2004 at 22:30
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Joyce,

You have one of the newer Samsung DLP's, and it does accept discrete codes. It's pretty goofy... Samsung came out with discrete codes for the DLP's last year, but changed them with their newer 2004 sets. Some of the discrete codes stayed the same, but others changed. For example, the codes for on and off, and the PC and S-Video1 inputs didn't change. The others did.

I was in the process of trying to find the newer codes when I ran across your messages. There is some more information on this site if you're interested...

[Link: avsforum.com]

-John
Post 11 made on Monday February 28, 2005 at 22:13
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Hi,
I have a Samsung HLN-5065W. I followed the instructions to check my firmware and the last 3 digits are 211.

I called Samsung and they told me there wasn't a firwmware upgrade available and that my TV should support the discrete codes, but it didn't seem to when I had my harmony remote set to do that. They also sent me an email with the discrete codes in hex (LIKE FF, C3, etc) and the associated video selection they are supposed to control. I couldn't figure out how to get these into my remote, however, I suspect that the harmony was programmed correctly initially and my TV just doesn't support the discrete codes.
Any ideas? How do I get the firmware upgrade (if needed)

Update: I spoke with Harmony support, they placed the codes in my remote on the web site and I updated the remote. It still didn't work.

This message was edited by ashakin on 03/03/05 12:18 ET.
Post 12 made on Wednesday March 2, 2005 at 00:56
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I'm having a similar problem with my DLP5063. I can't get my HarmonyH659 to find my DVI input. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Post 13 made on Tuesday March 8, 2005 at 00:44
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ashakin,

Samsung flat out told you a mistruth. There was an update given to all early adopters of the HLN sets which upgraded their firmware from v2xx to v214. The cost was around $200... but the actual cost to get the new digital board once that "special offer" expired was around $800 IIRC. Anyway, the FIRST firmware to support discrete codes of any kind on the HLN sets was v214. I personally have v204, v211 and v214... eventually getting that replaced with 1030. v214 discretes worked like a charm... 1030 worked like a charm as well... then the tv died and I now have an HL-P5685 on which none of the old codes work... very few of the new codes work... and most people have no clue what to do. I've spoken to level 2 tech support at Samsung about it and they are as baffled and pissed off as I am. I know that at least one guy there is hard at work creating a CCF file for a Pronto TSU6000, but it's far from complete. He's mystified by the Korean engineers and they even sent someone out to Korea to beat on them about this issue and others. They're trying to get a comprehensive set of what discretes work with what sets and with what firmware, but it's taking some time. Hopefully we'll know more in a few weeks.

Regs,
Jeff
Post 14 made on Tuesday March 8, 2005 at 17:37
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They have pronto codes for the new 74 sereis TV's. Might try those one the 85 series. But I am sure you already tried that.

Mike
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Post 15 made on Friday December 30, 2005 at 23:10
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On March 2, 2005 at 00:56, jjtcorsair said...
I'm having a similar problem with my DLP5063.
I can't get my HarmonyH659 to find my DVI input.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Has anyone been able to answer this? I am having the same problem.
HHH
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