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Post 76 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:34
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On November 1, 2011 at 21:59, 39 Cent Stamp said...
When i say "me" or "I" i am literally saying people like me who voted in the Civil Rights Act. It's a set of laws that allow the government to prevent him from discriminating against other sexes, religions, races etc.

I call it the anti-redneck act.

So you voted with the Republicans? Interesting. Discrimination is wrong but having the Fed tell private business owners how to do business is as wrong.
Post 77 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:37
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: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance


Post 78 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:47
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On November 2, 2011 at 11:34, mcn779 said...
Discrimination is wrong but having the Fed tell private business owners how to do business is as wrong.

So discrimination is ok if done by a business? Or are you saying it is not ok for a business to discriminate but we should allow it?
Post 79 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:49
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On November 2, 2011 at 11:20, BigPapa said...
 TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION 

| SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.


This is 100% the most important thing here. Perhaps some of us have forgotten that it was only 60 years ago that people were litteraly terrorizing our country, the USA, by setting bombs in public places to murder others due to their beliefs.

I honestly get where people are coming from saying that this guy should have the right to be a racist (or whatever) idiot and serve only those that he wants to. Unfortunately, the country started that way and it didn't work. The Civil Rights Movement took place because it HAD TO for things to change.

I don't get the feeling that anyone on this board is really on this guys side in terms of beliefs. It's important to think about those that do agree with this guy and how easily people can start getting hurt again. 

Personally, I hope and wish that we've come far enough that we could let idiots like this guy do business the way he wants. My fear is that we are then supporting him and others like hime and before we know, we are back to a seggregated country.

I realize this guy is hurting anyone but we all agree that is wrong to rape young kids, so much so that we passed a law to prevent it, if we didn't stand behind that law, what was the point?
 

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Post 80 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:54
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On November 2, 2011 at 11:34, mcn779 said...
So you voted with the Republicans? Interesting.

Not interesting at all. A hollow canard that is meant deflect today's race problems of the GOP. The dynamics of the 45 years ago are not easily distilled into one liner talking points on blogs or forums.

Civil Rights Act of 1964

The original House version:[13]

  • Democratic Party: 152-96   (61%-39%)
  • Republican Party: 138-34   (80%-20%)

Cloture in the Senate:[14]

  • Democratic Party: 44-23   (66%–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)

The Senate version:[13]

  • Democratic Party: 46-21   (69%–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:[13]

  • Democratic Party: 153-91   (63%–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136-35   (80%–20%)

[edit] By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

  • Southern Democrats: 7–87   (7%–93%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10   (0%–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145-9   (94%–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138-24   (85%–15%)

The Senate version:

  • Southern Democrats: 1–20   (5%–95%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–1   (0%–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 45-1   (98%–2%)
  • Northern Republicans: 27-5   (84%–16%)

Note the voting records referenced by region. This mindless canard folds when you look at the numbers and understand the regional politics.
Post 81 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 11:59
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On November 2, 2011 at 11:47, BizarroTerl said...
So discrimination is ok if done by a business? Or are you saying it is not ok for a business to discriminate but we should allow it?

In the minds of paleo libertarians and paleo conservatives, yes. This is more to do with government being inherently bad. The obsessive desire to negatively view government overrides rational reasons for law or regulations, even to mitigate nasty things like racism.

This is the result of bumper sticker politics and sound byte logic.
Post 82 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 13:12
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We are free to believe what we want, regardless, anything less and we are not truly free. Where and who draws the line on who and what is PC? The rights that a person has with regard to "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin" has to be applied both ways or it becomes discriminatory. I do not have the right to force anyone to believe or feel any other way than the way they want.
Post 83 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 15:18
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On November 2, 2011 at 13:12, mcn779 said...
We are free to believe what we want, regardless, anything less and we are not truly free. Where and who draws the line on who and what is PC? The rights that a person has with regard to "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin" has to be applied both ways .....

Please explain. Are you suggesting the Civil Rights Act was unnecessary and shouldn't be enforced?

Where and who draws the line is up to our gigantic Community of US Citizens. We as a people decide. I'm never going to say the politics and government are great and blessing to us, but they are designed to represent what we the people want. 

We vote for Civil Rights because the majority of our US society is against discrimination, that's how the line gets drawn. 

The US is has the broadest mix of cultures. I have met MANY, MANY racist since i've moved to California that are not white or southern, they are hispanic, asian, indian. Racism alone isn't only southern redneck issue. Because of our vastly mixed culture community, we need things like the Civil Rights Act to keep everyone playing nice together. 

do wino hue?
Post 84 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 17:51
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On November 2, 2011 at 13:12, mcn779 said...
We are free to believe what we want, regardless, anything less and we are not truly free. Where and who draws the line on who and what is PC? The rights that a person has with regard to "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin" has to be applied both ways or it becomes discriminatory. I do not have the right to force anyone to believe or feel any other way than the way they want.

Being truly free does not exist, just as there's no such thing as being safe. We are all restricted by our society, our morals, and our environment. Everyone can feel/believe anything they want, but any action on those impulses is subject to the rules of our society.
Post 85 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 18:54
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Im a little late to this, but I have to say, I like the idea from the article. The guy should be able to sell his services to who he wants.

And with that, I am going to open a bar doing the same thing. Only females between 18 and 30 and a size 4 or less will be allowed in. And no asians. Its nothing against asians, its just that I never got into that fetish.
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Post 86 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 22:49
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Big Papa, you sir are the prime example of a bigot. Period. Anyone who doesnt agree with your far left radical mindset is less of a person than you. THAT is the persona you give off with your post. Thats the way it is.

For the record, the stereotype of redneck is off base. I dont let it bother me as I just laugh at fools who make the biggoted assumption that they are all alike.

That said, I often assume the same of far left liberals. Wait, they are all the same. Guess Im a bigot.

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A Texas Redneck.
Post 87 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 23:49
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On November 2, 2011 at 22:49, Ranger Home said...
Big Papa, you sir are the prime example of a bigot. Period. Anyone who doesnt agree with your far left radical mindset is less of a person than you. THAT is the persona you give off with your post. Thats the way it is.

Well said. You have helped make my point. Not only did you not read the definition of bigot from the dictionary but you think I'm a 'far left radical.' Not that there would be anything wrong with that, but I've not taken any 'far left radical' positions, especially here.

I've voted for the GOP candidate in every presidential election since I was of voting age. This includes McCain, even though Palin was a seriously flawed VP candidate. This time, probably not. The GOP went totally nutter on me.

So I'm not surprised that people who I hammered on bigotry would call me a bigot, assume positions or politics I don't have, complain about me. I find it silly and childish, but what else would I expect?

This means you really have no other response.
Post 88 made on Wednesday November 2, 2011 at 23:58
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On November 2, 2011 at 18:54, Fins said...
Im a little late to this, but I have to say, I like the idea from the article. The guy should be able to sell his services to who he wants.

So I'd like to ask a question of any of you who support this, there have been a few of you. It's a simple question.

Why? 

There was a time when there were no laws against discrimination, and there was discrimination. There were laws supporting discrimation too. Then we have the Civil Rights Era, it's laws created to mitigate that.

So why do you think this is a good thing? 
Post 89 made on Thursday November 3, 2011 at 00:17
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On November 2, 2011 at 23:58, BigPapa said...
Why? 

There was a time when there were no laws against discrimination, and there was discrimination. There were laws supporting discrimation too. Then we have the Civil Rights Era, it's laws created to mitigate that.

So why do you think this is a good thing? 

I'm trying to figure this out as well. Are you guys against the laws that were in acted by the Civil Rights Act?

do wino hue?
Post 90 made on Thursday November 3, 2011 at 00:31
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Racists don't think we need the civil rights act. They think that the government is interfering for 'no good reason'. Because you know... all humans know the difference between right and wrong and they would never ever do anything bad.

Welcome to the world of common sense and reality. It's the place that begins just outside of the typical morons little bubble of a world an expands across the face of the globe. It's a place where you can't call yourself a Christian while hating muslims. It's a place where some Mexicans were actually US citizens before many of our European ancestors climbed in a boat. It's a place where some Christians don't want to kill everyone else for jesus. It's a place where every Muslim isn't trying to learn how to fly a plane so he can knock down buildings.

It can be a scary voyage into the unknown for those unable to recognize that everyone else in the world isn't exactly like them.
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