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Cat6 Plugs without inserts and load bars
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Topic: | Cat6 Plugs without inserts and load bars This thread has 23 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Saturday May 31, 2014 at 18:16 |
chris-L5S Senior Member |
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I hear somebody makes 1 piece Cat6 Plugs without inserts and load bars. Where can i get these? TIA
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Post 2 made on Saturday May 31, 2014 at 19:03 |
Audiophiliac Super Member |
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EZRJ45 is one piece. But you will get guys who say not to use them.....especially for HDMI stuff. The ones from snap are not too bad. Yeah, they take longer, and ruin your thumbs faster, but time is money. :)
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Post 3 made on Saturday May 31, 2014 at 19:18 |
Greg C Super Member |
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I use the ones from Ethereal all the time. [Link: etherealhometheater.com]Technically, they are not for Cat6, but they work perfect with Cat6, and I have never had an issue with them. Before that, I would use the 2 piece from Liberty. Still have a few hundred you can have.
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Post 4 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 00:21 |
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On May 31, 2014 at 19:03, Audiophiliac said...
EZRJ45 is one piece. But you will get guys who say not to use them.....especially for HDMI stuff. The ones from snap are not too bad. Yeah, they take longer, and ruin your thumbs faster, but time is money. :) All EZRJ45 connectors eventually fail because they are open on the end allowing environmental contaminants to corrode the connection, don’t use them. Believe it or not, my self and several other installers have found no performance difference between using standard RJ45’s that are designed cat 5 in place of a Cat 6 RJ45’s connectors. The cat5 connector version works great despite all of the moaning and groaning you will hear from the “experts”. What is worse a cat 5 connector they say wont work (but works just fine) or a cat 6 connector that is not assembled perfectly (which is most of the time)? True it is a tight squeeze but after a bit of practice it takes only a little bit longer to put the connectors on cat6.
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Post 5 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 02:55 |
ErikS Active Member |
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We've found one piece cat6 rj45s from a company called professional cable. The connectors work great with snaps cat6. Look like traditional cat5 crimp(not EZ) and has dividers that keep conductors and pins in order but cause the solid colors to shift up and striped to shift down. Have used them for data and HDBaseT with no issues. They require a bit of finesse to put on but easier than the three piece type. [Link: myprofessionalcable.com]
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Post 6 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 09:14 |
Trunk-Slammer -Supreme Loyal Member |
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On June 1, 2014 at 00:21, RTI Installer said...
All EZRJ45 connectors eventually fail because they are open on the end allowing environmental contaminants to corrode the connection, don’t use them. The number one reason the EZ connectors fail is a dull blade on the tool, which tends to not cut well. If you keep a sharp blade, and then seal the ends with something like clear fingernail polish, you'll be amazed at how well they will work. As a test, I used some EZ connectors on SCP cat5e with SnapAV extenders without sealing and got no thrill. Sealed the ends and all was well.
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Post 7 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 11:25 |
fcwilt Senior Member |
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On June 1, 2014 at 00:21, RTI Installer said...
All EZRJ45 connectors eventually fail because they are open on the end allowing environmental contaminants to corrode the connection, don’t use them. Possible I suppose but it's now 2014 and the wiring in my home from 2003 (using EZ connectors) shows no sign of corrosion. And the issue with 5 versus 6 is conductor size. If the size of the conductors in the cable is within the specs of the connector then all should be good. But you cannot just assume that is the case.
Last edited by fcwilt on June 1, 2014 22:53.
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OP | Post 8 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 14:08 |
chris-L5S Senior Member |
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On June 1, 2014 at 02:55, ErikS said...
We've found one piece cat6 rj45s from a company called professional cable. The connectors work great with snaps cat6. Look like traditional cat5 crimp(not EZ) and has dividers that keep conductors and pins in order but cause the solid colors to shift up and striped to shift down. Have used them for data and HDBaseT with no issues. They require a bit of finesse to put on but easier than the three piece type. [Link: myprofessionalcable.com]thanks Erik. i will be ordering some of these.
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Post 9 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 17:44 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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"Normal" Cat5/6 connectors are not sealed in any way shape or form. If the exposed ends of an EZ RJ45 fails because of environmental conditions then any non EZ RJ45 connectors will also fail.
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Post 10 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 18:36 |
fcwilt Senior Member |
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On June 1, 2014 at 17:44, Mac Burks (39) said...
"Normal" Cat5/6 connectors are not sealed in any way shape or form. If the exposed ends of an EZ RJ45 fails because of environmental conditions then any non EZ RJ45 connectors will also fail. I was going to mention that but it slipped my mind. Glad you brought it up. Thanks.
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Post 11 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 21:04 |
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On June 1, 2014 at 17:44, Mac Burks (39) said...
"Normal" Cat5/6 connectors are not sealed in any way shape or form. If the exposed ends of an EZ RJ45 fails because of environmental conditions then any non EZ RJ45 connectors will also fail. This is true, however I have had to replace many EZRJ45 connectors I have encountered installed by other contractors as well as those I installed years ago myself that were over 4 - 7 years old, its not that they fail right away but they do fail at some point and with much greater frequency than standard connectors. The exposed end of an EZ is right next to the contact spears. On a standard connector there is a much greater distance between the spears and the enviroment and if they are assembled correctly the jacket will be nice and snug within the connector further insulating the whole thing. I my self many years ago argued in favor of EZ's simply because they were less time consuming to install especially for the new guys working for me at the time. But I had to eat crow, the time savings is not worth the increased failure rate down the road
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Post 12 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 22:08 |
Zohan Super Member |
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On June 1, 2014 at 21:04, RTI Installer said...
This is true, however I have had to replace many EZRJ45 connectors I have encountered installed by other contractors as well as those I installed years ago myself that were over 4 - 7 years old, its not that they fail right away but they do fail at some point and with much greater frequency than standard connectors. The exposed end of an EZ is right next to the contact spears.
On a standard connector there is a much greater distance between the spears and the enviroment and if they are assembled correctly the jacket will be nice and snug within the connector further insulating the whole thing. I my self many years ago argued in favor of EZ's simply because they were less time consuming to install especially for the new guys working for me at the time. But I had to eat crow, the time savings is not worth the increased failure rate down the road Was there installer errors due tothe "new guys"? Just asking if thats a possibility.... Ive been usi g ez connectors for about 4 years now and so far not a single issue. Of course Ive always done them myself until recently I finally have a tech I can trust to do them.
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Post 13 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 22:57 |
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On June 1, 2014 at 22:08, Zohan said...
Was there installer errors due tothe "new guys"? Just asking if thats a possibility.... Ive been usi g ez connectors for about 4 years now and so far not a single issue. Of course Ive always done them myself until recently I finally have a tech I can trust to do them. That is always possible, I started using EZ's in I think 2003 but a lot of these connectors were installed by other companies. We are in the pacific northwest, it is wet here a lot, the humidity might have something to do with it. You will also note that a lot of companies say not to use EZ's with their baluns. I have taken old EZ cables put them in the network cable tester and they check out fine, but If I put them back in the system I get problems, so I replace the cables or re-terminate with standards and the problems go away.
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Post 14 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 22:58 |
Audiophiliac Super Member |
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Can someone cite any sources that explain the need for the pair separators and load bars on CAT6 ends? And why they are not required on CAT5e ends? I was told that they are required for certain certification/qualification standards that exist in some govt./military/corporate jobs. But I cannot remember who told me that and if I trust them. :)
I have used CAT5e ends on CAT6 before in a pinch and did not really think twice about it. The internets made it to the other end ok. :)
Just curious. I would love to not have to deal with the 2 and 3 piece stuff as well. But I have done it enough that it is not a problem anymore. You do what you have to do. I would rather do the thumb busting CAT6 terminations that deal with mini RGB....especially the stranded stuff.
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Post 15 made on Sunday June 1, 2014 at 23:10 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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I can't imagine EZ connectors corroding while standard ones being fine. True that EZ is exposed on both ends vs just one, but to say that the jacket's end somehow hermetically seals the inside end of the connector is simply not true. To that end corrosion would be more prominent on the end with stagnant environment where air slow is reduced. Besides, its the flat part of both jack & plug that make electrical connection. And for god sakes, where are you guys installing those cables where Cu oxidizes to the point where you're having failures?
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