Newbie, please don't let the "Guilty until proven innocent" attitudes here discourage you; it's just that about half of the installation jobs most of us get are fixing other people's f*^k ups, so some of us are a bit biased.

If you're sincere about your efforts and are willing to put in the time, I welcome you and wish you all the best.

As for you other guys, don'tcha think you're being a little hard on the Beaver? We should be encouraging new blood, not chasing it away.

P.S. As anyone who read my post about two weeks ago knows, I have no great love for CEDIA myself; but I wouldn't expect someone new to the industry to know any better.

Well, that's pretty much the problem. Not only would you have it humming in no time, you probably wouldn't know how to fix it so that it wouldn't hum.

Just using that expression shows you have no clue about the audio end of things, not in the real world.

I also would be loath to hire you now that you have expressed that you want to work long enought to leave and start your own business. You've got a problem: you have to keep quiet about that, lying by omission to prospective employers, to get some experience! Who would want to hire you if they knew that? Maybe you should look into what it takes to actually run a business; if you were to change your objective to becoming the world's best damn installer and designer, you would be able to honestly say that to an employer.


Well, to an IT guy, electrical is an SEP: Somebody Else's Problem. Again, he lacks the knowledge that he needs to know about electrical, because he is going to have to tell electricians how to do things so that the A/V stuff works properly. You know, so it doesn't HUM.....

No i wouldnt know to check to make sure the inputs are grounded, or make sure cables arent close to flourescent fixtures, or a crappy amp or possible RF interference, make sure cables arent running parallel to electrical work at a certian distance or that they cross only at certain angles and limited times, things of that nature at all your right.

ernie is smarter and more experienced than 3 or 4 of us put together.... ernie has forgotten more about custom than most people will learn in 2 lifetimes.

so i think your picking a fight with the wrong person?

I'll give you a hint. The problem is likely related to the first thing you said, but all the equipment is grounded.

CJ

sorry aint picking a fight just defending myself

ok from here on out say what you will, i will no longer be defending myself or replying to waste of time posts
i know your all very experienced and i am the new guy who knows nothing
i think we covered that, now if anyone and a few guys have, has any help or positive suggestions then please post them to help the new kid out. The rest can go back to sitting up on their throwns and can continue to look down on people. And forget what it was like when you were new and im sure someone gave you a break.

There are dozens of threads in regards to this...

A simple search will give you a wealth of information.

You spelled "thrones" wrong. Does that help?

You guys just crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have farted more times than most of you have put in stereos. LOL

Give the kid a break! I still make my guys come up and smell a Krell Amplifier when we open it. It usually freaks them out at first, but then they say..............yah! Thats pretty cool. I never thought about smelling one!


Cain't teach passion boys!............

........they gotta earn it.........................................

but WE have to introduce them to it.



The best................I MEAN BEST Home installers that I have ever seen................................................................
were first car stereo installers..............


Best wire management ever...............



Sorry I happened to have started out in car stereo a loooonnnnng
time ago.

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Gotcha ceied,
This expression has only been used once before on this site. See post 72 in this thread.

Simon.

LOL- was wondering why you brought up that old thread. You must be really wanted to remove the mask! That was some hunting- see what you can find on QQQ.

CJ

Just like the bathtub said to the toilet- "You might get more a** than me, but I don't take sh** from nobody."

I just remembered the term being used before and did a search on it. ceied's prior use in that post is the only time it has been used and it was used in the same context.

Simon.