His original post this morning made me cringe because I am also certified installer I. The exam mainly covers installation best practices that CEDIA would like their members to adhere to. Of course it's not going to be all about "Home Theater" our job is about running efficient projects, clean installation methods, and having the technical background to put all the pieces together.

A CEDIA Installer I in my book is only someone that is running cables. If they were able to run an installation it would be Installer II. If CEDIA wants their certifications to carry more weight they should make the applicants prove the required field experience before taking the exam.

I also have the Designer certification. That test was far more challenging and I had to pull a lot of information from my installation experience and electrical engineering background.

Brent obviously needs more time in the field to realize that we are not always installing magazine spread projects.

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SMCSI is moving to the US from England. Coordinate with him as Great Britain will be down an installer when he moves here.

Clark first off you are a joke, i was asking if anyone had any leads as to work. I never said i know everything about custom installs and never said i knew all the answers. Cause if i did i wouldnt be asking for help would i. You need to stop being such an egotistical prick and think back to when you first started in the business you dick. All was asking was for some guidence, you can feel free to keep your comments to yourself. Did i ever mention anything good about the CEDIA designation i said its just a piece of paper. And of course down the road i want to have my own business did you always want to be a wire pulling monkey, i want a better life for me and my wife and kids so blow me.... So Clark dont bother posting back cause your a poor excuse for a professional .... cause as we can cleary see you are far from that. I feel sorry for your clients.

Thanks to the rest of the PROFESSIONALS here for their help. FRR thanks

DAVENPORT. You have to admit that the level 1 exam is more common sense then anything i dont believe you have to put a lot into passing that exam. Alot of it is healthy and safety, the odd connections questions, some electrical some home building codes and such. I think the designer would probably be alot harder.
I will admit experience is what i need too, and im looking to achieve that. In no way am i trying to knock anyone in this biz, i have nothing but respect for everything that you guys do, that is why i chose this profession to move to. I have done 1 job pulling cable all over this house and i tell you what it was hard damn work, but i loved every second of it.

Good thing that Cedia test wasn't an English test. Don't think you would have passed.

SAAudio thanks for that!
I never said i was an english major either.

Give the guy a break! Sure the CEDIA certificate is a joke, but he's from outside of the biz and didn't know that before he went through it. He is wanting to change careers, is looking for an entry level job, says he's willing to bust his a$$, and has shown initiative by taking and passing a CEDIA course and also by tracking down this forum and posting this.

If I were looking for someone to hire in the CI business that was new, I'd want someone who was smart (currently in IT field), professional (IT), hard working (willing to bust a$$) and shows initiative. He's even willing to relocate. The only thing that would give me any pause is that he would like to start his own company someday. However, anyone with the attributes I just listed is probably thinking the same thing and just hasn't brought it up.

CJ

Well i'm glad you can dish it out as well as take it.

First off the only joke around here is all the wanna be's.

I have earned the right to be an egotistical prick. I have seen guys like you come and go, mostly go. I've been in this industry for over 15 years. I have helped more start up guys than I can shake a stick at. And have given more good advice than i have ever received.

I started as a wire monkey for my own company and still do most of the wiring. I dont trust anyone with my reputation or my work.

My pedigree is not on trial.

As for blowing you. Sorry I dont smoke pole!

I may be a poor excuse of a professional, but all my customers trust me. And i dont care if they like me, because if they dont, they can kiss my ass. As they write me big fat checks and send me off on their private planes.

clark you dick... leave the kid alone.

i think you are the new resident jagbag because i was never that mean to people. was i?

the kid is some what funny and claims to be a hard worker so give him some credit. and frankly stood up to you and basically told you to fu@% off..... that took some balls.

ok dude you gonna be in town this weekend? i have my kids so if you are come over for cocktails

ed

See Clark i knew we would get along haha. I knew deep down at heart you would be a nice guy. Anyway i see your point a view, and by my post i didnt mean to offend you in anyway. I dont expect to be able to even touch what you can do with your experience. All i was looking for was a little help if anyone had any connections or and advice. We all gotta start somewhere and im willing to be a wire pulling monkey and prove myself, all im saying is my goal is to make a nice life for my family so if that means one day jumping ship to open my own business i gotta do what i gotta do. No one else is going to take care of my family for me. Ive been in the business world long enough to know that loyalty means nothing. Anyone who thinks different is fooling themselves. Im sure thats why you have your own business making im sure the big bucks. If one day i can be sitting here like yourself and harrassing the newbies ill be loving it too. You have pride....i like that, one day ill buy you a beer!

PS i didnt truely mean that your not a PROFESSIONAL, just defending myself.

Hey man! my email is in my profile. shoot me an email and we can talk. I am in Houston though........a long way from you. I have given a lot of guys their start. If somebody doesn't teach the new guys, then we have a lot of jobs that end up like the one I walked the other day. Looked like a ninth grader wired it for his dad's boss.

You will NEVER meet me to buy me that beer. My identity is secret and only 2 people on this board know who I really am. But I have met lots and lots of these guys as myself under my regular identity.

Oh we may have a beer together someday but you wont know that its Clark W. Griswold you are drinking with.

As for me being a professional, that is in doubt, I just dont care what people think of me.

clark ..... you are a jagbag!....lol...... dam dude you were rough....

No problem... Well, that is until there IS a problem.
Then what?? Troubleshooting skills based on what?? a pre-exam book that gets covered in one day??

I am another one who has paid the dues since the *other* Bush was in the White House.

I started like you, except I was content to pull wire and ask a lot of questions.
Also, back then custom really was custom.

You practically needed a BSEE to install and setup a projector, and HT was 4.0 with a mono surround channel and a subwoofer that crossed over from the mains (if you knew how to place a crossover in the signal path w/out inadvertently summing the L,R mains to mono).

Center channel was matrixed, and the limited bandwidth rear channel (singular) was derived from out of phase info placed on the 2 channel signal.

Good systems had an outboard Dolby Pro-Logic decoder and then a separate preamp for stereo. The early HT receivers were Dolby Surround (no center) or had a line level only center output in Pro-Logic. Also, the rears maybe had 30W/ch.


Yep.

mmmmmm

strange how ceied seems to often post right after clark........