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Post 106 made on Sunday May 23, 2004 at 03:01
npaisnel
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Marcinko24

I do not think that you are doing anything wrong, it just seems to be the way that TR is handling cetain types of IR code. Try editing the hex code manually, getting rid of repeats, cleaning up the code etc, also changing leadin/out times can sometimes help. Otherwise it is just a matter of time until Don gets the learning fully sorted for all code types
Post 107 made on Sunday May 23, 2004 at 11:16
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Thanks npaisnel. That was my next thing to try. The hex code did seem a little long. I'll see what I can find. Most of the devices I have are already in other CCF's. How do you copy the IR codes from another CCF to my own?
Post 108 made on Sunday May 23, 2004 at 12:00
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If you use Tonto, then you can open multiple ccf files in the same instance of the program, then just cut and paste from one ccf file to the other. If using Pronto you will have to open two instances of the program, one for each ccf file, then copy and paste between the two.
Post 109 made on Monday May 24, 2004 at 06:35
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Hi Npaisnel,

I need to tweak some of my IR codes.

How do I edit these manually? Can I do it directly in Total Remote or do I need to use Tonto or ProntoEdit?

Thanks,

Chris
Post 110 made on Monday May 24, 2004 at 16:40
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On 05/23/04 02:43, MagnusB said...
I can confirm that it works with a 4150.

Regards, Magnus

Magnus,
Thank you for your reply. I recieved this message from Griffin Technology today, and although I realise they may well just be covering their asses, I just wanted to confirm with you that you do infact have the audio extender working (and what sort of range you get if possible) as the unit costs about $40 in the UK. If it does work, maybe Don could update his tech support guys :)

--- ATTACHED EMAIL ---

Hello,

The Audio extender is not compatible with the 4150.

Dustin

Griffin Technology
Technical Support
Post 111 made on Monday May 24, 2004 at 18:08
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Hello Morak.

The extender works just fine with my 4150.
There are some problems with the software though
but that is being worked on as you can read earlier in this thread.
Post 112 made on Tuesday May 25, 2004 at 03:56
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Chris,

No cant do it in any TR, or any of the IR apps, you need to use the ccf editing progams, all downloadable for free. Either Pronto Edit 4 or Tonto. Best to get both.

Also look in the files section of this site, under Pronto stuff and documentation, you will find a few useful documents there describing how to understand the hex code, will give yo an idea of what to do to edit it.

Neil P
Post 113 made on Saturday May 29, 2004 at 18:16
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Anybody using this with an Axim X5??

What sort of range are you getting? I assume that the "less than 10 feet" quoted on griffins web site is when used with their transmitter. With the built in Irda the reange is hopeless (inches).
Post 114 made on Tuesday June 1, 2004 at 17:58
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On 05/29/04 18:16, mrv said...
Anybody using this with an Axim X5??

What sort of range are you getting? I assume that
the "less than 10 feet" quoted on griffins web
site is when used with their transmitter. With
the built in Irda the reange is hopeless (inches).

Using the ever-hopeless Axim X5 you can expect pretty grim performance from the audio transmitter and absolutely abysmal performance from the built-in IrDA port. This is just one of those very few Pocket PCs which are really poor for Total Remote. Fortunately Dell worked with us prior to the release of the X3 (and now the X30) to insure the IrDA port was powerful enough to be used for consumer infrared control.

On 05/19/04 01:51, Robert_F said...
I think that if you only have a limited amount
of programming time to devote to TR then perhaps
it would be a good idea to drop it's native code
and concentrate on perfecting ccf compatibility.

I might have thought that was the right answer, until a few people came forward and let me know they have no interest in becoming CCF experts just to turn their home theater system on all at once.

On 05/19/04 16:56, blueness said...
I had to order my "Total Remote" online. Is there
an effort to approach the Best Buys and Staples
of the world and put it in the PocketPC isle
or even the remote control isle?

Realistically, no. Best Buy has expressed considerable interest in Total Remote, but that deal has yet to go through. Additionally, and this may be the single most honest comment any PDA-based remote vendor could ever make, there is just no way to insure the same level of compatibility as found in $15 universal remotes. There, I said it. The secret is out. Now the Secret Confederation Of PDA Consumer Remote Control Software will have to call for my immediate death. PDAs were not meant to work as remotes, and it is just amazing that it works as well as it does. It is a hack of the highest caliber. Now, if I am a buyer for Best Buy and I have the choice between stocking the coolest and potentially most powerful remote control software to enable Pocket PCs to be used as a remote MOST OF THE TIME, FOR MOST DEVICES, FOR MOST CUSTOMERS, or a $15 piece of Taiwanese crap with no style but also near 100% compatibility... well, you go with what works. Due to the endless complexity of Total Remote I would HATE to have it sold in a mainstream channel to where my mother/grandmother could pick it up, completely fail to grasp it, and return it for a full refund (you have NO idea how damaging product returns are to a company, when the product is not actually defective!). TR is not a mass-market app, anymore than the Pronto is a remote that will appeal to my grandmother.

On 05/19/04 16:56, blueness said...
As for my first "skin", I was hoping to take a
cue from your Kubrick skin and create something
slightly starker (but still cool) called "Odyssey".
It's amazing how that aesthetic (the other word
of the day) still holds its own... in fact much
of today's graphic design vernacular seemed exemplified
in that movie.

After "odyssey", I'd hope to put some subtle 3D
skills to use on something more classic 80s videogame
style. Have you seen the PS2 game "Rez"? That
"Tron" aesthetic is also compelling, but might
not be the most ergonomic in some lighting conditions.

COOL! NEED TO SEE IT! :)

On 05/21/04 17:50, nielsje said...
I used to use pdawin and designed a lot of ccf
files by using tonto,but I'm always searching
for something newer and easier.
The way the templates work (button mssk) is both
easier and smarter using the color codes.Another
nice thing about your program: if you ,for example,
setup a Macro to point out a device as the endpoint,you
can see the result rightaway (the same with adressing
the hardbuttons)

The thing I missed in the skins was a kind of
menu,but that was very simple to make (the manual
says it all!)
So from now on I'm controlling my equipment with
total remote instead of pdawin,in native skin.
Keep up the good works!!

You could not have done any better at sucking up to me. I mean, endearment to the point I might name my first-born "Nielsje". :)

On 05/24/04 16:40, Morak said...
Magnus,
Thank you for your reply. I recieved this message
from Griffin Technology today, and although I
realise they may well just be covering their asses,
I just wanted to confirm with you that you do
infact have the audio extender working (and what
sort of range you get if possible) as the unit
costs about $40 in the UK. If it does work, maybe
Don could update his tech support guys :)

--- ATTACHED EMAIL ---

Hello,

The Audio extender is not compatible with the
4150.

Dustin

Griffin Technology
Technical Support

Ah. It would seem the boys in tech support were having a bad day, or have lost the fear I put into them last time they were publically caught blowing off our customers.

AFAIK, it should theoretically work. Some users have had success, some have not. We have NEVER been able to get a "bad 4150" user fixed up. There seems to be some differences in the sound control panel options, so one user may report a checkbox that simply does not exist for another user! The only thing I can suggest is Total Remote ASSUMES the audio path is "pure"; no equalization/tone contol, no "AGC", no "Bass boost", no NOTHING. If you have options for things that affect the audio path, turn 'em off!


--Don, Overlord O' The IR
Post 115 made on Wednesday June 2, 2004 at 23:13
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COOL! NEED TO SEE IT! :)

d'ho! I guess I'd better get crackin'...
... or is the vote for a "Rez" skin? Perhaps I'll stick with Odyssey as I'm into that Kubrick / IDEO directness.

I can totally understand the Best Buy angle. Returns must suck if you're not stamping out generic PHD ("push here dummy") remotes for "pennies on the dollar."
Post 116 made on Tuesday June 15, 2004 at 22:28
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On 05/24/04 18:08, MagnusB said...
Hello Morak.

The extender works just fine with my 4150.

There are some problems with the software though
but that is being worked on as you can read earlier
in this thread.

Hi! Am a newbie here. I have a 4150 too and I am planning to buy Total Remote. How far does the audio transmitter work for you? I'm desperate for some first hand information. Been through many forums but to no avail til here. Thanks!
Post 117 made on Friday June 18, 2004 at 11:07
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Hello, I've been reading through the forums and haven't noticed anyone using TR with a Toshiba Genio e550g. Is there anyone out there with firsthand knowledge how TR works with the Genio? How about the audio transmitter?

Am I correct in what I read, in that the CF IR transmitter from Ultramote will NOT work with TR?

Thanks!
Post 118 made on Friday June 18, 2004 at 13:04
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On 06/02/04 23:13, blueness said...
d'ho! I guess I'd better get crackin'...
... or is the vote for a "Rez" skin? Perhaps
I'll stick with Odyssey as I'm into that Kubrick
/ IDEO directness.

Either one sounds cool, although the idea of PULSING bands of Tron-like accents made me suddenly wish Total Remote had support for animation or color cycling. ;)

I can totally understand the Best Buy angle.
Returns must suck if you're not stamping out
generic PHD ("push here dummy") remotes for "pennies

on the dollar."

Griffin suffers this far worse on the consumer gear, actually. Our madly wildly popular iTrip FM transmitter for iPods (also my project, thankewvurramuch) is sold my quite a few consuder channels like CompUSA, Apple retail and online stores, etc. and the returns on such products are mind boggling. You buy an iTrip at CompUSA, decide that "it doesn't work right" which really means you can't use an FM transmitter in your particular situation (no opens bands like in LA/NY, electrical noise from power lines conducted into the RF signal, you have a crappy radio with a broken antenna but it pick up the local 100,000 watt radio station "just fine!", etc.) so you return it, and CompUSA sends it back to us with no explanation why, and for FULL credit. Of a typical CompUSA-style return of 100 units, less than 5 will actually have a defect. We cannot sell them again as new, and it is extremely difficult to recover the electronic components for reuse (failure rates shoot through the roof for "reworked" components).

You can see why I am not overly eager to give your mother, my mother, or anyone else's mother a chance to buy this based on pretty screenshots on the box. I am beginning to see that a decent home theater remote system requires a level of commitment not unlike selecting and using a programming language; you will never get satisfactory results without pouring tons of personal effort into it, and there will be a lot of time spent editing even if you try to cheat and use someone else's CCF/skin layout as a framework.

As an aside I would note that _I_ think it is easier to work "on the device" with Total Remote's native mode for taking a skin and adding IR codes and macro functions than working "offline" with a damn CCF editor. I _could_ be biased. :)

| On 06/18/04 11:07, trmaier
said...
Hello, I've been reading through the forums and
haven't noticed anyone using TR with a Toshiba
Genio e550g. Is there anyone out there with firsthand
knowledge how TR works with the Genio? How about
the audio transmitter?

Since it is on our compatibility list, but Griffin does not own one, it came to us as a user-reported success. Considering every Tosh up to the e750 worked without any caveats I would say you are pretty safe. In many respects, given the extremely powerful IrDA of the e3xx and e740 (which we do have) and the excellent audio port that works well with our transmitter it is possible the e5xx may be one of the BETTER Pocket PCs to use for remote control.

Am I correct in what I read, in that the CF IR
transmitter from Ultramote will NOT work with
TR?

Yup. Of course in fairness it doesn't work with Novii or VitoRemote either. Should it? If someone wants to send us CF IR devices we can use for testing we might add support for the various flavors of CF IR devices out there, but the limitation of what PPCs it can be used with (due the the utterly non-standard nature of this absolutely non-complient CF IR device) it doesn't set my world on fire, ya know?
Post 119 made on Friday June 18, 2004 at 15:15
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Yo, thoughts, yo:

Is it even possible to make CCFs with VGA-resolution screens (480x640)?

Assuming Total Remote could support such a VGA-CCF, would this VGA-CCF be usable in ANY other remote, such as TVRC or the Pronto?

Wouldn't such VGA-CCFs be monstrously large, to the point of near-unusability? Consider not only the many megabytes needed, but also the considerable time needed to decode and display the images.

Please consider [Link: remotecentral.com] and give me an opinion on the MASS MARKET need for Total Remote to support these deviant devices. Also consider that one of only two vendors of such crap appears to have vanished without a trace, so there will be ever fewer of these things on the market.

Post 120 made on Saturday June 19, 2004 at 05:04
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Don,
I see your point: the 'canvas' for ccf in prontoedit is only 240*320: this means that if you double the size of your buttons to make them look better in vga, you will also have to deal with the fact that this means less buttons on the canvas. The file-size is no problem: memory on PPC is ever increasing. And no: you probably can't use vga ccf in pronto, but I am only interested in TR and pocket PC's. But still nice of you Don to be so considerate about other companies ;).
But: vga is the next thing on pocket pc's: Toshiba e800 is the first, the rest will follow. This might become a problem: does native TR look good on vga? Ccf will probably become unworkable on vga. Are there owners of a Toshiba e800 that use TR in vga mode?
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