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Second grade homework: who knows what a line plot is?
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Post 1 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 20:59
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And who can tell me how to draw one?
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Post 2 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 21:17
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Ha ha ha

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Post 3 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 21:20
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OP | Post 4 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 21:35
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I had already googled it. I was curious if anyone here knew the answer without google, and if someone might clarify a couple things that could make my kid's homework instructions make more sense.
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Post 5 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 21:41
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I believe we called that a graph back in the day
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OP | Post 6 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 21:51
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On April 7, 2013 at 21:41, ceied said...
I believe we called that a graph back in the day

That's what I figured out once I stopped listening to my daughter's explanation and started over.
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Post 7 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 22:18
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Son in third grade has a test this Friday in physics, on material that I studied in high school. He needs to know the difference between potential and kinetic energy, what kinds of media sound will propagate through, and how to change the pitch and volume of a sound wave. Good things.

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Post 8 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 22:42
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On April 7, 2013 at 21:41, ceied said...
I believe we called that a graph back in the day

A line plot is a graph, but not all graph's are line plot's.

Calling a line plot a graph, is a bit like calling an HDMI cable a wire. If you ask for a wire, you may not get an HDMI cable.

Fins,

If you have specific questions about line plot's, ask away. I'll do my best to help. I think this link is pretty good regarding how to make one:

[Link: ellerbruch.nmu.edu]

I'll check back shortly to see if you need anything.
Post 9 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 22:47
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bcf inadvertently raises a very likely possibility: the teacher might just mean "a wire" but is saying "an HDMI cable."

Teachers know a lot about what they are doing, but it is very possible that this teacher means graph and does not realize that a line plot is a specific kind of graph. That might be why we all had to use google just now, despite thinking to ourselves "is that a graph?"

Textbooks can be even dumber than that.
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Post 10 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 23:00
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On April 7, 2013 at 22:18, Neurorad said...
Son in third grade has a test this Friday in physics, on material that I studied in high school. He needs to know the difference between potential and kinetic energy, what kinds of media sound will propagate through, and how to change the pitch and volume of a sound wave. Good things.

I hope he's fluent in JavaScript and Klingon by age 12. And, I introduced him to weird Al on desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DN9qYF9DZPdw

Physics, in third grade? Did they change the order of the science curriculum? I read that they were considering starting with Physics, then move to Chemistry and the other sciences because knowing the principles of Physics makes learning the others easier, rather than waiting until later.

With the knowledge of potential vs kinetic energy, sound propagation, etc, I'll ask first- when does he start working for you?
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Post 11 made on Sunday April 7, 2013 at 23:32
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On April 7, 2013 at 22:47, Ernie Gilman said...
bcf inadvertently raises a very likely possibility: the teacher might just mean "a wire" but is saying "an HDMI cable."

Teachers know a lot about what they are doing, but it is very possible that this teacher means graph and does not realize that a line plot is a specific kind of graph. That might be why we all had to use google just now, despite thinking to ourselves "is that a graph?"

Textbooks can be even dumber than that.

How about giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt? Just because you (plural) didn't quite know what a line plot is, doesn't mean the teacher doesn't know. We should assume it's part of the curriculum the teacher is supposed to cover & he/she should be familiar with the terminology. I knew exactly what a line plot looks like as soon as I saw the phrase in the OP. I bet many others who might read this thread would too.

On the other hand, I bet there are as many incompetent teachers out there as there are incompetent (insert an occupation here).
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OP | Post 12 made on Monday April 8, 2013 at 00:24
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On April 7, 2013 at 22:42, bcf1963 said...
A line plot is a graph, but not all graph's are line plot's.

Calling a line plot a graph, is a bit like calling an HDMI cable a wire. If you ask for a wire, you may not get an HDMI cable.

Fins,

If you have specific questions about line plot's, ask away. I'll do my best to help. I think this link is pretty good regarding how to make one:

[Link: ellerbruch.nmu.edu]

I'll check back shortly to see if you need anything.

Thanks. What made the problem more confusing at first is that it is combined with learning to measure. On the first side of the page, my daughter had to measure about 10 different lines with a ruler. Then on the back, use the data from the front page to create a line plot. At the top of the page was already a line with arrows at each end. I finally concluded that line was to be used to diagram the line plot. But at the bottom of the page was a slightly shorter line with no arrows. Once I figured out what the goal was, I realized this second line was the origin of my daughter's confusion. It was also mine, and for the time being decided that it must have been a mistake that wasnt ever meant to print. But she had two worksheets to do; one for inches and one for centimeters. And the back of both sheets were identical.
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OP | Post 13 made on Monday April 8, 2013 at 00:27
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On April 7, 2013 at 23:32, cshepard said...
How about giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt? Just because you (plural) didn't quite know what a line plot is, doesn't mean the teacher doesn't know. We should assume it's part of the curriculum the teacher is supposed to cover & he/she should be familiar with the terminology. I knew exactly what a line plot looks like as soon as I saw the phrase in the OP. I bet many others who might read this thread would too.

On the other hand, I bet there are as many incompetent teachers out there as there are incompetent (insert an occupation here).

I'm sure the teacher knows exactly what it is, because once I figured it out my daughter knew exactly what I was talking about. And if she meant something different, I believe she would have used the word "graph"
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Post 14 made on Monday April 8, 2013 at 23:44
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I just had a similar situation come up tonight. My son had one question that referred to "algebra tiles". He maintains that his teacher has never mentioned them. I have never heard of them. There was a drawing (in b&w) of some bars and some squares.

OK, so I type 'algebra tiles' into Google, and up pop a bunch of websites. The first one has an online tool, so I play around with it and end up more confused than when I started.

This link:

[Link: mathbits.com]

helped a bit, but as his picture was just of some unlabeled black and white squares and rectangles, there was a bunch of missing info. All of the tiles seem to be color coded as to positive/negative. The b&w drawing was quite unspecific.

I guess you learn something new every day.

I hope we got the answer right.
Post 15 made on Tuesday April 9, 2013 at 03:03
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You drove 'em out of business! I can't get any pages to open at mathbits.com, including pages linked from google. Yeah, I hope you got it right!


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