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Post 1 made on Tuesday September 30, 2003 at 11:14
cjoneill
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Does anyone have a .ccf with the codes from the RC68+. I need them for unit codes D1-D6 (all the keys). Or, even better, does anyone know of a program to convert Xantech's .pal format into .ccf?

Thanks,
CJ
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Post 2 made on Thursday October 23, 2003 at 00:40
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I too have been looking for this and can't find it anywhere. I need this to get codes for the mrc44.
Post 3 made on Thursday October 23, 2003 at 01:58
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Did any of you email Xantech?

I have an RC68, which has most of the codes of the plus. I could probably make you a file. What device are you trying to control? What code group are you referring to? I am not looking at my remote right now, and I don't remember D1 - D6, but there are 256 possible settings for EACH button on the remote.

I'll check on the MRC44 for you, pat, but you need to be aware of the code group...hey, pat, are you going to use the default code group? If you are not, then if I make you a file it will be worthless.

More info, please. You can post it here or email me. Copy me by email so I'll get it even if I don't come back here soon.

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OP | Post 4 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 11:32
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I didn't email Xantech because I assumed that they would rather me purchase the remote rather than give me the .ccf. They do have the codes available if you have the DragonDrop software and programmer.

From the instruction manual, the RC68+ has a code wheel on the back where you can choose which programming set to use. I'm not sure how that is determined on the remote you have.

I'm trying to get the codes so that I can control an Arrakis DC-4. The setup manual for the Xantech IR-DC4 converter can be found here: [Link: xantech.com]

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer,
CJ
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Post 5 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 12:40
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This CCF claims to be for a variety of Xantech devices controled by the RC68 remote.
[Link: remotecentral.com]

The pdf you linked to references that RC68 remote and seems to indicate that it can generate 3 sets of 32 commands and your DC4 documentation describes the 32 commands and the three sets are three "zones of the DC4".

That CCF has what seems to be much more than three sets. The commands are in NEC1 protocol and the "code groups" seem to be named with two digit hex codes. I understand the correspondence between the two digit hex code and the NEC1 device number, so if you know the hex number for the code group you need, I can give you pronto hex even if it's not in that CCF. I probably can find the pattern of command numbers as well (which 32 out of the possible 256 NEC1 commands they use).
Post 6 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 12:52
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On 09/30/03 11:14, cjoneill said...
Does anyone have a .ccf with the codes from the
RC68+. I need them for unit codes D1-D6 (all
the keys). Or, even better, does anyone know
of a program to convert Xantech's .pal format
into .ccf?

D1 throught D6 might be the hex numbers of code groups, in which case I know how to translate them for the Pronto's 900A (special NEC1) format or for the MakeHex program to generate clean 0000 format Pronto Hex.

After I put the decode of that CCF file into Excel, it was clear that most of the code groups each use most of the commands 0 to 31, so I assume those are the required 32 different commands. Code group "FB", which is NEC1 device 23, uses commands 208 through 223 for functions named "Bank 1" through "Bank 16", but none of the others use commands over 31.

OP | Post 7 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 13:02
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After reading the RC68+ manual again, I think that you are right that it is the Hex code group. I didn't realize that I could use MakeHex. I'll take a look at the documentation and see if I can do this myself and not waste any more of anyone elses time.

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CJ
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Post 8 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 13:14
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They seem to have a strange translation rule for hex code group to NEC1 device number. I think that D1 through D6 would be devices
55, 87, 119, 151, 183, and 215
but I don't think in that sequence (D1 might be 55, 87 or 151. D3 might be 119, 183 or 215.)

I don't see enough in that CCF to nail that down.

You can try those device numbers with NEC1 with commands 0 to 31 with MakeHex. With a few good guesses or a lot of testing you should find what you need.
Post 9 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 17:08
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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I just looked at the manual, and it looks like D1, D2, D3 are the settings of the rotary switches on the back of the RC68, which defines which commands come out of the remote when you push the different buttons.

This means that I don't get what cj originally referred to as D1 - D6, as the manual speaks of D1 - D3, and says these are three different code sets for three different machines. I assume this is like Sony's VCR code sets 1,2,3, which allow you to use multiple VCRs in the same room with no interference among the three.
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Post 10 made on Friday October 24, 2003 at 17:28
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On 10/23/03 01:58, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I have an RC68, which has most of the codes of
the plus. I could probably make you a file.

If it's a lot easier to learn just one button for each of D1, D2, D3 rather than 32 buttons. I'm pretty sure that the 32 buttons are just command numbers 0 to 31 in NEC1 protocol, which can be generated with MakeHex. I'm much less sure about what device numbers you get for D1, D2 and D3.

If you give me Pronto Hex or a CCF file for one button each of D1,D2,D3 I can use IrTool.exe or decodeccf.exe to pull out the device numbers.
OP | Post 11 made on Saturday October 25, 2003 at 15:13
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On 10/24/03 17:08, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I just looked at the manual, and it looks like
D1, D2, D3 are the settings of the rotary switches

on the back of the RC68, which defines which commands
come out of the remote when you push the different
buttons.

Yes, that's correct.

This means that I don't get what cj originally
referred to as D1 - D6, as the manual speaks of
D1 - D3, and says these are three different code
sets for three different machines. I assume this
is like Sony's VCR code sets 1,2,3, which allow
you to use multiple VCRs in the same room with
no interference among the three.

There has been an update. You can now use D1-D6 to control all 6 zone outputs, not just the first three.

| On 10/24/03 17:28, johnsfine
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If it's a lot easier to learn just one button
for each of D1, D2, D3 rather than 32 buttons.
I'm pretty sure that the 32 buttons are just
command numbers 0 to 31 in NEC1 protocol, which
can be generated with MakeHex. I'm much less
sure about what device numbers you get for D1,
D2 and D3.

If you give me Pronto Hex or a CCF file for one
button each of D1,D2,D3 I can use IrTool.exe or
decodeccf.exe to pull out the device numbers.

That would be great. Ernie had graciously offered to learn all the commands, but this should save him a lot of time. I'll see if I can use those programs to do it myself.

Thanks,
CJ
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Post 12 made on Thursday February 5, 2004 at 23:20
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I can't believe I forgot to check on this post!

Anyway - I had e-mailed Xantech on this a couple times and never got any answer from them. I ended up setting it to code group 68 to match a file I found here, but that file doesn't have good volume up and down buttons (you can't press and hold them). The default code group is 48 (Overlay A), which would probably be better to use.

Anyway - if you would be able to learn these into a CCF it would be much appreciated.
OP | Post 13 made on Friday February 6, 2004 at 09:03
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I finally decided to go ahead and get the RC68+. It arrived yesterday. I'll try to get them learned this weekend and will upload the .ccf once it's done.

CJ
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OP | Post 14 made on Monday February 9, 2004 at 11:43
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Unfortunately, now my TSU3000 doesn't want to connect to my computer (or any other one) so that I can download the template. I'll let you know if/when I get it done.

CJ
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Post 15 made on Monday February 9, 2004 at 13:06
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Thanks, I'd appreciate it. You would think that Xantech would have this in a ccf since they know how many people want to use these things with custom remotes.
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