OK, well, hmm...that didn't quite work. But there's a reason why that I've worked with, and perhaps you can give me some further advice.

I was using the SAT spot for my CD player to use the optical port in. This could be confusing things a bit. So...I went ahead and hooked up my CD player using standard cabling and got it working under the CD function of the receiver.

I then went ahead and programmed the CBL/SAT button on the remote to control my CD player instead. So now that button is acting as a second AUD button. With the codes, everything is now working (including the auto power on for the receiver)...except for turning the blasted thing off.

I tried the code to turn off the receiver, but that didn't work...perhaps because it's no longer functioning as a CBL/SAT button. Sorry to be such a pain! Now that you know that, would the codes be different?

The only reason we're doing it this way, is the setup code you're using for your receiver doesn't accept advanced codes on its own, so we use another RCA device to get the codes from. Once you get the codes you need, you can change the SAT to a CD player. But for this to work, you'll have to turn the SAT back into a SAT, program code 0392, and follow the steps I laid out.

This message was edited by edmund on 08/28/03 00:09.

Now I understand. I'll try it and let you know how it works.

All right...tried out the whole works. The SAT section worked, getting the receiver to acknowledge and go to SAT at the press of the button.

Unfortunately, the power off is still an issue. In fact, when I tried what you suggested, I couldn't get the CD player (now programmed into the SAT button after doing everything listed above) to turn off or on! I had to reset the "shared" stuff and reset the SAT button completely, switch it back to CD, and then it worked. The receiver still would go to SAT at the appropriate button press, but no power off.

What I think could be the problem is that the receiver did not have a distinct power off even on the original remote controller that came with the thing. To get the thing to turn off, you'd have to hit the power button twice in rapid succession, first turning off say the VCR and then the second button press would turn off the receiver. I've tried that with the OFA, of course, but it just turns the VCR off and back on again immediately.

Any ideas? (Thanks for your help so far - everything else but the power is working well.)

Sounds like you missed a step, step 6, you were supposed to hit the AUD device, then pick a button. If the POWER button under SAT/CD didn't work anymore, that means you mapped the advanced code to a button under SAT and not under AUD like you were supposed to.

Well, I've tried it a number of times, including getting the CD player to work properly afterwards. Still no dice on the power.

But like I said, the original controller had to see a power off twice in a row...hmm...I tried setting up to "power off" and hitting it twice, and that didn't turn it off. I also tried this with the RCA VCR code, since I have an RCA VCR and can see the result. It does turn off the VCR, but hitting it twice does not turn off the power on the receiver. Would it possibly be a code like "system shutdown" instead of "power off"? I know this seems daffy, but since the receiver never had a discrete on/off, only on/off connected to other components through the original remote, I'm wondering if it's a different code.

Also check this thread which may apply, particularly the last post...
[Link: remotecentral.com]

This message was edited by AkiraKaneda on 08/29/03 02:59.

Did you try code 099? That's supposed to be a power toggle, instead of a discrete command.

Yep, tried that too. It's unfortunate. :(

I took a 3 remotes to RS, 2116, 9910,and 6131, tried all codes I suggested, nothing worked. Sorry, all out of ideas. As for the post from the HTM forum, that might work if you had a learning remote, but the 6131 isn't.

I am new to all of this and am having the same problem with my RCA receiver and my OFA 6131nw.

If I do the above using the 099 code will that make the power button turn my receiver ON and OFF? Is that what toggle means?

I am confused because I am not sure why I would have to hit the SAT device button in the procedure.

Any clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT:

Huh. Just saw that there was a 2nd page to this thread. Guess my above comments are moot.

SO....has there been any codes for this discovered or whatever in the recent past?

Yes, that's what it's supposed to do, however there is a mistake in those instructions. They are attempting to program the POWER button using the SAT/0392 code, whereas they should be using the VCR/0060 code. Also, the 099 code just happens to be programmed to the POWER button in the VCR/0060 code.

Here are the correct instructions.

1. Program the 0060 code to the VCR device button

To test if the 099 code works...
2. Press the VCR button
3. Press the POWER button (the device should turn on or off)

To program this code to a button...
4. Press and hold the SET button, 2 flashes
5. Type 994, 2 flashes
6. Tap the VCR device button
7. Tap the POWER button
8. Tap the AUD device button (if that's what you're using for your RCA receiver)
9. Tap the POWER button (or whichever button you are programming - see below), 2 flashes

With some OFA remotes, you cannot re-program the POWER button using keymoves. This may be the case with the 6131, so you may need to use a button other than the POWER button, but by all means try the POWER button first just in case I am mistaken.


The regular POWER button that you find on most remotes is a "toggle" button, in other words, if you press it once, it will turn your device on, press it again and it will turn the device off, etc. We use the term "toggle" to differenciate this function from the discrete power functions. A discrete code will do just one thing, for example, the DISCRETE ON code will turn your device on when the device is off, but if you use the code when the device is already on, it will leave it on.

Read the following page for more info:
[Link: remotecentral.com]


So, you're asking "why" it works, OK, but this might get a bit technical...

RCA uses a variety of device codes to control their devices and the POWER function comes from device code 14. Some OFA setup codes are programmed to use a single device code and some are programmed to use multiple device codes. The ones that use multiple device codes use 2-byte variable data which means they don't support advanced codes. I assume you are using the audio/1254 code to control your receiver, this is a 2-byte combo code, so it doesn't support advanced codes, therefore, if you want to re-program any buttons using advanced codes, you would need to use a different setup code that not only supports advanced codes, but also uses the RCA protocol with the right device code. In this case, the setup code that fits this profile is VCR/0060.

Thanks Rob. I appreciate it.

I'll try this (and the coding for my Ilo) tonight. Hopefully they both will work...and all before even a single response from OFA support.

Thanks again!

Well, the 0060 code doesn't turn the receiver On or OFF.

I've tried the following codes from the RCA VCR list 0240/0042/0149/0106/0760 too but none work.

Any ideas on the next code to try?

I also tried to search for the code (choosing VCR and searching in hopes my receiver will turn off). I am not sure how long the search process should take, but I stopped after 30 or so tries. Perhaps I should keep going at it.

Someone got it going with no help by me:

[Link: hifi-remote.com]

Ah! Now you've created a loop in the time-forum continuum by referring to that thread in this thread and this thread in that thread.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I would prefer though, to find a code that will allow me to toggle instead of using two discrete codes and assigning random buttons to this.

I know there is one that will work. It seems like one of the defaults was turning it on and off, but I haven't found which one yet.

But, if someone has a code before I get to checking all that are in the manual...it will be greatly appreciated in that you'll get nothing but self gratification way.

-b