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85" Frame TV above fireplace
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Post 16 made on Monday January 9, 2023 at 22:00
tomciara
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On January 6, 2023 at 14:18, SWOInstaller said...
It's just a different way of writing 2/3 or .066".

In all honesty it is 4" OR 6" deep for the people that may take 4/6" as an actual measurement

I musta failed that particular class.
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Post 17 made on Wednesday January 11, 2023 at 21:16
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On January 4, 2023 at 23:03, goldenzrule said...
Or they could have made the tv with inputs built into the tv, you know, like ever other tv on the planet

But, but it is powered through the one connect cable. One cable is all you need.
FUTURE!
PROGRESS!

All you have to do is route a cable that is sold in fixed lengths and get the rectangular head through a 1"+ hole and you are in business.

Oh, and they change the pinout on the cable every 2 years so when the tv dies in the future, you gotta go through this process all over again.

Did I mention the TV is so damn smart it forgets that it has inputs connected to it? And once that is fixed, it forgets what they area and "helps" by offering to set them up again.

Oh... You want to switch between off, art and on with anything other then the factory remote? Yeah, no.

Want to use the motion sensor to trigger art mode so the client sees pretty pictures when they walk into the room? Well that will work....sometimes....when it feels like it.

I am extremely close to refusing to have anything to do with Frames. I am getting PTSD from the damn things.
I am a trained professional..... Do not attempt this stunt at home.
Post 18 made on Thursday January 12, 2023 at 11:23
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On January 11, 2023 at 21:16, Richie Rich said...
But, but it is powered through the one connect cable. One cable is all you need.
FUTURE!
PROGRESS!

All you have to do is route a cable that is sold in fixed lengths and get the rectangular head through a 1"+ hole and you are in business.

Oh, and they change the pinout on the cable every 2 years so when the tv dies in the future, you gotta go through this process all over again.

Did I mention the TV is so damn smart it forgets that it has inputs connected to it? And once that is fixed, it forgets what they area and "helps" by offering to set them up again.

Oh... You want to switch between off, art and on with anything other then the factory remote? Yeah, no.

Want to use the motion sensor to trigger art mode so the client sees pretty pictures when they walk into the room? Well that will work....sometimes....when it feels like it.

I am extremely close to refusing to have anything to do with Frames. I am getting PTSD from the damn things.

I know that was sarcasm, so this question is really for Samsung, who we all know doesn't really GAF about the CI channel (the reps do, but Samsung as a whole doesn't).

Anyway, if the One Connect cable is so great, how come you took it off of everything except the Frame and 8K TV's. I still don't know why it would be necessary for any of their TV's as no other manufacturer uses anything like the One Connect.

I do, however, like selling the accessories and extra labor that the One Connect makes necessary for a nice installation.
Post 19 made on Thursday January 12, 2023 at 11:55
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On January 12, 2023 at 11:23, BHuey1969 said...
I know that was sarcasm, so this question is really for Samsung, who we all know doesn't really GAF about the CI channel (the reps do, but Samsung as a whole doesn't).

Anyway, if the One Connect cable is so great, how come you took it off of everything except the Frame and 8K TV's. I still don't know why it would be necessary for any of their TV's as no other manufacturer uses anything like the One Connect.

I do, however, like selling the accessories and extra labor that the One Connect makes necessary for a nice installation.

The extra labor is nice, although it presents challenges at times when replacing an existing display. Most clients who want them ask for them specifically but then are flabbergasted when you explain they are not a simple "take old tv down, put new tv up" replacement.

They would be an easy sell, even at premium prices if Samsung would make a few simple changes.

1. Ditch the media box
2. Go back to the single plate mount
3. Proper discretes for on/off/art
4. Get the motion sensor to work properly and consistently
5. A "dumb" mode that stops trying to help with control and input selection. Yes, I know you can kinda/sorta turn off most of the features but...
I am a trained professional..... Do not attempt this stunt at home.
Post 20 made on Friday January 13, 2023 at 08:58
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On January 12, 2023 at 11:55, Richie Rich said...
The extra labor is nice, although it presents challenges at times when replacing an existing display. Most clients who want them ask for them specifically but then are flabbergasted when you explain they are not a simple "take old tv down, put new tv up" replacement.

They would be an easy sell, even at premium prices if Samsung would make a few simple changes.

1. Ditch the media box
2. Go back to the single plate mount
3. Proper discretes for on/off/art
4. Get the motion sensor to work properly and consistently
5. A "dumb" mode that stops trying to help with control and input selection. Yes, I know you can kinda/sorta turn off most of the features but...

Yeah, about the mount, Those go to the recycler with the rest of the boxes and stuff. I use this Sanus. I know it's not as low profile as the Samsung mount, but it's still a really nice looking installation.

[Link: sanus.com]

I refuse to use that thing Samsung puts in the box.
Post 21 made on Friday January 13, 2023 at 16:17
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On January 13, 2023 at 08:58, BHuey1969 said...
Yeah, about the mount, Those go to the recycler with the rest of the boxes and stuff. I use this Sanus. I know it's not as low profile as the Samsung mount, but it's still a really nice looking installation.

[Link: sanus.com]

I refuse to use that thing Samsung puts in the box.

Funny, that comment comes up frequently. I get out my laser level, lay out the two brackets, and it seems like a piece of cake. Get the TV up there, and it can be leveled in five seconds.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 22 made on Sunday January 22, 2023 at 11:08
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On January 6, 2023 at 14:18, SWOInstaller said...
It's just a different way of writing 2/3 or .066".

In all honesty it is 4" OR 6" deep for the people that may take 4/6" as an actual measurement

One of my interview questions for installers is to tell me what half of 7-1/8" is. After telling me about all the tools and his proficiency, I had a guy come back to me with some answer that included 2/5. Yes, two fifths. Thus proving he's never used a tape measure and ending the interview.
Post 23 made on Monday January 23, 2023 at 09:44
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On January 22, 2023 at 11:08, 77W said...
One of my interview questions for installers is to tell me what half of 7-1/8" is. After telling me about all the tools and his proficiency, I had a guy come back to me with some answer that included 2/5. Yes, two fifths. Thus proving he's never used a tape measure and ending the interview.

Im guessing he drank 2 fifths before the interview.
Post 24 made on Monday January 23, 2023 at 11:04
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On January 22, 2023 at 11:08, 77W said...
One of my interview questions for installers is to tell me what half of 7-1/8" is. After telling me about all the tools and his proficiency, I had a guy come back to me with some answer that included 2/5. Yes, two fifths. Thus proving he's never used a tape measure and ending the interview.

That is great. I can remember being in maybe fourth grade, and talking to an older guy across the street about something being about 1/2 of a quarter inch in size. “Oh, you mean 1/8 inch?“ Well, we all have to learn that at some point!

I used to give out a test when we would interview prospective audio repair technicians. We would ask them what the normal idling current was in the output stage of an amplifier, take up tension on a cassette deck, and so on. One question was, what is the normal tracking force for a good high-quality phonograph cartridge. If you remember owning a turntable, you would know it was around a gram and a half. One prospect  wrote his answer at about 30 ounces. Not a good prospect.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 25 made on Monday January 23, 2023 at 18:41
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You asked easy questions. I'd ask why enabling Dolby-B while playing a cassette tape seemed to reduce the high frequency output. I didn't expect any of them to be able to correctly answer this, but I wanted to see if they attempted to snow me and how they handled themselves when encountering an unfamiliar situation.

30 ounce tracking force would certainly clean a layer of dust out of the groves (along with some vinyl)! But, you'd need a specially reinforced stylus and a fortified head shell and arm lift in order to complete this task.

Was this an older person?

Post 26 made on Tuesday January 24, 2023 at 10:14
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On January 23, 2023 at 18:41, buzz said...
You asked easy questions. I'd ask why enabling Dolby-B while playing a cassette tape seemed to reduce the high frequency output. I didn't expect any of them to be able to correctly answer this, but I wanted to see if they attempted to snow me and how they handled themselves when encountering an unfamiliar situation.

30 ounce tracking force would certainly clean a layer of dust out of the groves (along with some vinyl)! But, you'd need a specially reinforced stylus and a fortified head shell and arm lift in order to complete this task.

Was this an older person?


30oz could have cut our own records.

Nah, just a younger person with no experience.

It was a 30 question test so it separated the men from the boys.

Later we started repairing computer monitors.  I had not developed a separate test for monitor repair, and like every applicant, the guy who came in to do monitor repairs, said he knew them, and was really good. After he floundered hopelessly for a couple weeks, he admitted that he had only worked on one, and it was his own. Bye-bye.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
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