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Topic: | 3 HD Sats in Theater Room This thread has 93 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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Post 16 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 08:45 |
ericstac Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2002 312 |
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Ernie, you are kidding right? eight seperate tubes... that is hilarious.
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OP | Post 17 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 08:52 |
O.K,O.K,O.K....:) So who is game for the control portion of this? Email me if so. CMack
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Post 18 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 09:25 |
Eric Johnson Universal Remote Control Inc. |
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The Home Theater Master MX-800 was designed to handle this, with one RF receiver. It has built in IR routing for up to SIX identical components so it can accommodate your 2 identical plasmas and your three identical sat receivers. As long as you have been careful to specify components that have discrete on, off and input commands, it can do everything you need without the expense of an automation system like Niles Intellicontrol, Crestron or AMX. Best Regards, -Eric Eric Johnson www.hometheaterpro.comPhone 1-800-247-7001
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Best Regards, Eric |
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Post 19 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 09:28 |
Eric Johnson Universal Remote Control Inc. |
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By the way, the MX-800 system can be extended throughout the house by placing additional RF receivers whereever there is another TV. There are 16 unique addresses, so actually a fully blown system can accomodate 20 identical components without any issues based on the 20 assignable device addresses (you can assign up to 16 recievers, with any of six line outputs to each of the 20 devices). The upcoming Home Theater Master MX-3000 will enable you to handle up to 255 devices, of which 96 (16x6) can be identical components. Best Regards, -Eric Eric Johnson www.hometheaterpro.comPhone 1-800-247-7001
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Best Regards, Eric |
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Post 20 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 10:21 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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On 07/23/03 08:45, ericstac said...
Ernie, you are kidding right? eight seperate tubes... that is hilarious. Yeah, it is, isn't it? I have learned the kind of creativity that comes about when you do the engineering for a chain of A/V stores and your machine shop is only a drill press. You learn how to pull ideas out of thin air. One of the joys of this work is that the right solution for the situation can make you laugh for weeks. At that time, the Pronto had not been introduced, which left us only with the option of putting a Lexicon remote behind an actual commercial bar right next to the sink (the 500T was too high to go into any of the drawers they had) or of coming up with some other kind of answer. I was kind of proud of the idea, especially since there were no moving parts to wear out. We actually angled the tubes up so that they could look down at the remotes as they pushed the buttons. It had the added advantage that the IR receivers were well hidden from well drinks, and the whole thing looked so nondescript that nobody ever messed with it.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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Post 21 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 22:59 |
BNC-RCA-RG59 Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2002 314 |
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I also have a client with 2 hughes e86's. One in the mast Bed and one in the livingroom. I was forced to disconnect both of the rf antenna. Now I hve two mx-700 on order. What is this I hear being able to address each e86??
Bnc
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DON'T BE FRUSTRATED, GET INTEGRATED! (From a custom installer) |
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Post 22 made on Wednesday July 23, 2003 at 23:28 |
C'mon Eric..... This is a top flight system. Cheaping out on the control aspect will only make this customer dissatisfied in the long run. Bite the bullet and direct the customer to the right product for his system! Thats what they pay us for.
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Post 23 made on Thursday July 24, 2003 at 08:46 |
MN Installer Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 91 |
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I'd tend to agree that on a system of this size and scope an AMX or Crestron system is really the best way to go. However, if there simply is no money for control (which by the way I don't believe for a second), another option would be the RTI T2 with 1 or 2 IRF-6 units. You have full RF capability, touchscreen graphics, IR routing, RS-232 capabilities and a variety of power sensing options should you have chosen TOADs for the equipment.
I know there have been a few issues, primarily with a bad run of LCD units which by the way, RTI has replaced without question for us, but the product is a good one, with great capabilities. I happen to know one of the guys at RTI and he gave me a sneak peek at some of the new hardware they have in the pipeline and I gotta say I'm impressed with the thouht they've put into meeting my needs as a custom installer and system engineer.
Brad
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Post 24 made on Thursday July 24, 2003 at 18:50 |
Greg C Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2002 2,589 |
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On 07/23/03 22:59, BNC-RCA-RG59 said...
I also have a client with 2 hughes e86's. One in the mast Bed and one in the livingroom. I was forced to disconnect both of the rf antenna. Now I hve two mx-700 on order. What is this I hear being able to address each e86??
Bnc Yes, the E-86 has 8 different IR and UHF codes available. You need to go into preferences to change them.
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OP | Post 25 made on Thursday July 24, 2003 at 21:03 |
Sounds like the Hughes receiver is the answer. I've used them for years and have been satisfied. Didn't know about the different codes though. I agree control is key. Regardless of how great the system is, it won't be enjoyed if it can't be controlled. With the ability of the hughes box I think the control will be pretty simple as long as the config makes sense, and it will. Another key piece of this system that will keep this pretty simple and faster is the Key Digital piece. It has 8 component inputs and 3 ouputs. Any of the 3 outputs will pass any of the eight inputs at the same time. I'll upcomvert the the vcr to 480p so that input switching on the displays is not necessary. Even the x-box will integrate without a problem. I may be wrong and I'll continue to look for the solution that will fit the best. Thanks to all, CMack
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Post 26 made on Friday July 25, 2003 at 22:29 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | October 2002 6,233 |
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Well, 8 Remote code sets arent going to help you that much without Discrete Power codes.... I havent used the Hughes, but I dont see any such codes in the couple files I looked through....
Have Fun....
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Post 27 made on Sunday July 27, 2003 at 10:51 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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The solution to Impaqt's issue is to just leave the satellite receivers on. I believe that turning the power off on a satellite receiver just turns off the video out and the channel 3 output. If they run hot when "on," they run hot when "off," so I never have bothered my clients or myself with turning them off.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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Post 28 made on Sunday July 27, 2003 at 13:09 |
MikeSRC Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 5,958 |
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There are no discretes for the E86. I agree with Ernie, just leave it on. And yes, they do run hot, on or off.
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www.SurfRemoteControl.comTHX-certified video calibrator and contributing writer, ProjectorReviews.com |
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OP | Post 29 made on Monday July 28, 2003 at 23:19 |
As for the E86 reciever running hot on and off, mine cools off overnight. In fact I don't recall any of my clients receivers aver running hot while they were off either...Go figure. I had the HVAC guys install a small return air duct directly above the gear. In fact It'll be inside the cabinet so leaving them on shouldn't be a problem at all. CMack
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Post 30 made on Tuesday July 29, 2003 at 14:45 |
Eric Johnson Universal Remote Control Inc. |
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Has anyone tried a channel up command on the E86? On some CATV boxes, it acts as a discrete ON.
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Best Regards, Eric |
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