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Best remote for marcos and discrete codes
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Post 16 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 12:44
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Your repeated attempts to goat me into a low brow verbal war won't work. It's sad that someone merely posting a counter point to your spam, in your mind, warrants such abuse.

Regardless of how childish you're being, I do believe your software/GUI has it's place and is certainly a solid option for those looking for something along those lines. However, I do think you post blindly with pride concerning your creation, and don't see the forest for the trees in regards to what other, simpler, more suited options there are.

I'll post where I feel, and that usually ends up being where someone is railroading the uninformed.

Last edited by smokinghot on August 9, 2008 12:56.
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Post 17 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 13:04
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This thread had nothing to do with the software we produce, and I could not care less what you think of our software or anyone else’s for that matter. I have absolutely no respect for your opinion whatsoever. Gotit?
My credentials and accomplishments speak for themselves, and I have a feeling that the forum owners and moderators would rather go out of their way to attract experts in the field and not have them harassed by riffraff.
I have made every attempt to resolve this in a professional manner. My next action will be a formal complaint to the hierarchy, and I doubt that you would be the first to be banned from this forum for harassment.

Last edited by GMPCM on August 9, 2008 13:27.
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Post 18 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 14:32
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GMPCM: you're way out of line. The ego started with you, I simply asked you a reasonable and polite question about how your proposed solution is of any greater benefit to the OP than a well programmed universal remote. How did I come across as arrogant or ego-driven in this post?:

On August 8, 2008 at 16:18, tweeterguy said...
Like what? Let's assume he's a typical consumer (please
correct me if I'm wrong dmathieu). A typical consumer
these days has a display, cable/sat box, dvd, maybe an
iPod plugged in via analogue and an AVR. What functionality
are you providing that can't be accomplished via full
command sets from a URC or RTI remote?

If you cannot intelligently respond for more information about a concept that you continually spew on these forums, don't bring issue with me. I understand the concepts of HTPC, I don't agree with them and don't feel there is a need for them in 99% of the installations we do, hence I am not that familiar with all of the benefits which you allude to but yet refused to elaborate on.

I could care less about your credentials, nobody asked for you to qualify yourself or the size of your ego either. If you come here and claim X system is better and someone asks "why?" you damned well better be able to back it up. Until you do, it's nothing more than a self-serving pitch in my opinion.

I've seen other posts by yourself and they all have the same look and feel. As it stands, neither Smoke nor I were arrogant or condescending until you got up to flex your muscles behind the keyboard. Get over it man, if you have a great concept and idea, let it speak for itself and don't get so bent out of shape if someone questions it or requests more information about it. And as for the reporting stuff to mods...go ahead, be sure to include the fact that you have been advertising here for free too. Nobody gets banned for having an opposing opinion and the tone of this post changed to negative with you, not Smoke or myself.

"I request that you do not post in any threads that I am currently posting on in the future." Wow, get over yourself, don't threaten us with a good time!
Post 19 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 15:32
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On August 9, 2008 at 13:04, GMPCM said...
This thread had nothing to do with the software we produce,
and I could not care less what you think of our software
or anyone else’s for that matter. I have absolutely no
respect for your opinion whatsoever. Gotit?

Yes sir...lol. Are your other invested interests realise you're representing the company with such bad comsumer relations. Best part is I've actually recommended your software to others on RC. If this is what is to be expected of your product support, rest assured I will not continue to do it for for you.

My credentials and accomplishments speak for themselves,

So do mine.

and I have a feeling that the forum owners and moderators
would rather go out of their way to attract experts in
the field and not have them harassed by riffraff.

That's what I hoping too.


I have made every attempt to resolve this in a professional
manner.

When exactly did that happen...? Please a link...

My next action will be a formal complaint to
the hierarchy, and I doubt that you would be the first
to be banned from this forum for harassment.

Please do. I've been nothing but polite, and will stand by any post I've ever made on RC.

I look forward to your next thread.
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Post 20 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 16:10
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dmathieu, Harmony is the only one under 100.00 unless you go with a Jp-1 remote, only rhing I see there is buttons are all fixed and cant be renamed...so your play button on aux might be power for the TV and such. they are great remotes for the money, but you will need also the programming cables..15.00 or so and some time to map out all of your commands..going this route is cost effective but will take some reading and time

the Harmony remotes are decent all PC programmable, but limited on its customization, mainly, you enter your info online and it will generate the macros and such, you can from my understanding te=weak it a little hee and there but limited

if you go more $$ you van get into URC remotes at around 100.00+ MX350 and up, the MX350, 450 and 650 arent PC programmable but will allow you to learn new codes into them as well as set up macros that you want

if you want to spend more, you can get into MX700 and up and get PC programability and full customization.

There is the route of a HTPC but now, how are you controlling the PC to control your gear,,,???? I havent ever gone this route, I do have A global cache unit here at home but I was using it with Crestron. GMPCM seems to have a solution but I am not understanding the user interface...how does one talk to the PC to control your equipment?? software? if so thats money you spend, as well as the IR receiver and emitters

so it looks as if there are many ways to do what your asking, it just which way you want to go and how much your willing to spend. You mentioned 100.00 and Harmony was mentioned. you mentioned wife and kid friendly and harmony is, just limited on PC programming and requires internet connection.

Another option is to look around..Ebay, amazon and such for a used Pronto 2000 or 3000?? this would be a good starting point to get into remotes and PC programming.

Any way you go, there will be a learning curve and some time on your part to be invested.
There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.
Post 21 made on Saturday August 9, 2008 at 18:55
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What’s the matter, you afraid that your little scam of selling folks here up to a remote that requires a 4-month course just to set up might be hurt? Someone intelligent comes along and provides them with information that happens to nullify your offer to them of your installation services?
Anyone like me can see what your ulterior motives are here, and you expect me to fall into your little bash trap?
Of course you don’t acknowledge what an HTPC can do, it is your primary competitor, and will very likely destroy your petty little business in the very near future. Maybe you should go fish for prospects somewhere else, cause me or someone like me will be right there with real information to prevent you two or the other installers here from taking advantage of them.
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Post 22 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 02:09
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I don't know what sort of distorted reality you're living in, but your solution is the most over-complicated roundabout way of performing a simple task.

HTPC's are great for situations when they should be used (internet surfing, heavy PC gamer, etc). But in most setups, they're of little value. They greatly over-complicate the simplest of tasks.

And how do you propose the HTPC is controlled? With a mouse? Or a keyboard? Or some other peripheral like that? That really makes it inconvenient to control.

Oh wait...now I just see that any remote can be used to control it. But I don't think many people have a remote laying around that is not already programmable but has an LCD screen or exactly the buttons they want.

All the OP needs is a universal remote. The MX-900 would do everything he requires and then some.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 23 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 04:23
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Wow, you really raised the bar on just how idiotic some of the posters here can be, didn’t you? I guess I have you at a disadvantage, as I actually know what I am talking about, and you don’t know jack. Your opinion of an HTPC should have lots of knowledgeable folks rolling on the floor.
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Post 24 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 09:39
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You want to argue like that? Fine. Then throw me some facts, some evidence, some arguments. Not useless attacks like that. You're only making yourself look like the idiot.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 25 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 14:21
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GMPCM you're a f'ing tool, plain and simple. You still can't answer a simple and direct question. Every post of yours is a self-serving attempt to earn a living via your "concept", yet you refuse to answer a direct question about how it will benefit the original poster of this thread. I know, I know you are of superior intellect to the other hundreds of CI's like myself who have been using devices such as URC and Crestron for control for ages. I bet your Star Trek action figures sitting by your sofa are quite impressed with your mouse pointer and they get really charged up when you talk out loud to change the channel.

As for me, you are completely wrong; HTPC is and never has been a competitor of our products. Furthermore I have never, on this board or any other, solicited a sale of any product or service from anyone. My username does not reflect my company name, my signature has no links or solicitations and my bio states nothing about offering anything for sale whatsoever. In fact, it's quite the opposite; I have on frequent occasions offered help to other CI's and DIY'ers for free in my spare time. I've received numerous control files from other members of this board and have either helped them through the process or completely redone their programming; all free of charge with no mention of my company name or expecting anything in return.

What have you done? That's right, jack shit. I've read through your other posts and they are all of the same nature. "Remotes suck, HTPC and my software is better and by the way here's a link for you to purchase at" <<<< Very admiral indeed, why don't you at least support Daniel and buy some banner ads if it's so great. I realize SLC is a bit of a lazy town, I lived there for 7 years, but man you gotta get out once in a while and not be so pissed off if someone reasonably requests that you explain your concept. I have an idea, why don't you stroll on down to Aurant, tell them how great your concepts are, tell them the Crestron they've been installing is junk, and see how fast you are shown the door. Good luck.
Post 26 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 16:39
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You really should go buy a clue. Since I do have a PhD, my time as a tutor is worth more than $200/ hr. If you can even afford that, then I would be quite happy to conduct a course on HTPC technology just for you.
Otherwise, I suggest you do your own research where you will sooner or later find the fact that HTPC's do compete directly with high end IR remotes and that they are in fact far superior. So how do I explain this in a terminology that you could understand? Oh I know, how about : "gitrdone"

Last edited by GMPCM on August 10, 2008 16:52.
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Post 27 made on Sunday August 10, 2008 at 16:58
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I have 3 Inteset units in our warehouse, client absolutely hated them, inconsistent control, constant lockups, and continual firmware and software updates. That being said we have completely steered away from HTPC other than offering an audio and video conection to allow then to view the PC on the screen to do what ever.

Im not saying HTPC is bad, Its not my thing nor any of my clients, my clients use Crestron and RTI and are happy with what we have sold them and installed.

HTPC has its place, I just cant let my clients down with inconsistant control,

We have a client with a PC that he has configured himself and had tried to interface with the distributed audio system we installed, we have been back on several occasions now to reload his program for the audio system as he has managed to get ahold of the software and messed it so bad it wouldnt even power on....and yes we charge him for the trips out and tell him to not mess with something he is not familiar with...yet he continues

If your comfortable with a HTPC then please go that route, if you would prefer a universal remote..then go that route, you like automation stuff look at that
There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.
Post 28 made on Monday August 11, 2008 at 20:41
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WOW now he has a PhD too! We should all respect that for sure. Who gives a shit!

Hey you're selling yourself short. I'd think an intellectual genius such as yourself would command a whole lot more for all of the valuable information you've been "giving out" around here. But yet you have time to waste arguing who's manhood is better. Did you learn those skills in the high school debate team or was that part of the online PhD you earned?

How was the sales pitch down at Aurant? Did they drop Crestron on the spot for you?
Post 29 made on Monday September 1, 2008 at 10:12
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It is not PC programable, but if you want a simple remote that will accept a lot of macros I would look at the Sony remotes. The Sony remotes will accept a macro on any key. I use a cheap RM-VL600 on our second system. Using discrete codes I have one macro on control one to turn everything on and another on control two to turn everything off. This system has a pre pro, amp, vcr dvd and tv. I have a small macro on the TV button that changes the input on the pre pro and tv. I do the same for dvd and vcr. Program volume control, mute and other functions needed to carry through. I was surprised at how user friendly this remote made this system. Wife and kids do not have any problems using this system. You will need another cheap $10.00 remote that can learn discrete codes. Something like a 4 in 1.

You can set these up so that they function much like the harmony remotes "watch tv button" but not have much money in the remotes (about $35.00 total). You save a lot of cost, but you have to do the leg work to get the discrete codes yourself.

In our main HT system I also use a Sony remote. It is a touch screen. It is a real pain to program and customize, but great once you get it set up. I placed a macro on the TV button so that when pressed it does the following: turn on AVR, change AVR input to cable, turn on TV and change TV to correct input. The main difference between this and a Harmony is Harmony has done all of the leg work for you and has made it easy to program. If you are not interested in doing the leg work then I would buy a Harmony.
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