All,

I have to admit I love these forums. Everyone is very helpful sharing their knowledge about remote controls.

Now for my question. I'm ready to purchase a new remote for my home theater and have used this site extensively to compare remotes. I think I'm going to go with the AV3000, but don't fully understand the implementation of discrete codes.

I intend using the discretes to power up individual components (i.e. the DVD player and VCR) when required and to switch inputs on my Phillips TV. I have found all of the discrete codes through this forum, but I'm not sure how to get them into the new remote. My current remotes use the dreaded power toggle and the TV has a menu to change the inputs, so I can't learn the discrete codes from my existing remotes.

The AV3000 has all of the features I want at a great price, but I really don't want to purchase it if I won't be able to use the discrete codes.

Sorry that I'm asking for a tutorial, but any information would be greatly appreciated.

JoeT

If your oem remote doesn't have the discrete commands, the only way to get them into the Sony av-3000, is by use of a OFA/RS remote or a pronto. OFA/RS remotes generate the discretes, themselves, via the use of advanced codes. These are codes for individual functions(123-PIP, 067-PLAY). You can get the radio shack 15-2104 on clearance for $10. It's a learning remotes best friend.

Go to this thread, in which I recently provided more detailed information on discrete codes:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Ron and Edmund,

Thank you for your responses. I see both of you are very active in these forums.

I made the plunge and purchased the AV3000. I've spent the last 2 night programming away (my wife calls it obsessing!), and noticed 1 item regarding discrete codes. The discrete codes I found at hifi-remote.com don’t match up to the codes that are programmed into the AV3000. For example, the discrete codes for the Phillips TV are 0054 or 0030, but the programmed code on the AV3000 is 8056.

Are the codes programmed into the AV3000 not the same as the discrete codes that I’ll use once I get the Radio Shack 15-2104? Do I really have the discrete codes I need, or should I be searching for codes that match those programmed into the AV3000?

Just curious.

JoeT

1. Discrete codes and programmed codes are two different things.
2. To use discrete codes, you first enter your device code into the Radio Shack remote. Then, you press the P button, and then the three digit discrete code found in the Advanced Code listing at hifi-remote.com. This sends a signal to the AV3000 (or directly to your component if you want to test the code).
3. This said, the program codes for the AV3000 are used to program the AV3000. The program codes for the 15-2104 (or similar RS remote) are used to program it for your device, and then the P-button and 3 digit discrete codes are used to assign the codes to the AV3000.
4. Your Phillips TV shows two setup codes, 0030 and 0054. When you get to the Advanced Code listing, only 0054 is shown, so use that. When you open it up, you see the discrete codes available. Let’s say you want to use discrete on and off codes, which are 018 for on and 082 for off. You first program the TV button on the 15-2104 with code 0054, for your TV. Then, you press the P button, and then 0-8-2, which should turn off your tv. You can then teach this code to the AV3000, and use it in a macro if you want to so you can turn off your tv, and your receiver if you use one for audio, etc.
5. Here is another reference you can look at. It is kind of long, but may clarify some points. [Link: remotecentral.com]

Ron,

Thanks for the quick response. I'm off to Radio Shack this afternoon to pick up the 15-2104 and finalize the programming of the AV3000.

Also thanks for the post on discretes. I'm sure it'll come in handy.

Hopefully, no more questions. Thanks again!

JoeT

Are you sure Radio Shack still has a 15-2104? If they don't have one, the 15-2103 will also work well with discrete codes. I mention this because not all RS remotes will do discrete codes, so if you buy another model make sure it will do the discretes or you will have to make another trip to exchange it.

Just picked the last 2104 off the shelf at my local Radio Shack. What a steal at $10. I can't wait to get home and give it a try...

So you're the guy that beat me to the last one. No, I called my local RS and they had 3, so I went down and bought one. Figured I am recommending them to so many people I really ought to try one, and for $10 it makes a good backup also. I am so used to my AV3000 that regular keys feel funny now, but it will be interesting to find out how much it will do.

Ron and Joe, you're going to find that sunken P button to be such a pain-in-the-neck, that you're going want to map the advanced code to button, then teach it to the av-3000.

You are sooooooo right. That is the first thing I noticed about the 15-2104, but I mainly bought it to play with and as a backup to my two OFA remotes. I didn't need it but couldn't pass up such a bargain. The 15-2103 is on sale now for $12.99, but it has the same tiny P button. I may return it. Imagine trying to search for discrete codes with that sunken button. Oh well, back to my OFA's.

OK, I made some progress last night programming the discretes into my AV3000 using the 15-2104, but ran into a real show stopper. The discrete codes for different AV's listed on the hifi-remote web site for a Philips TV (code 0054)didn't work (discrete on and off are OK). I really need the discrete codes for AUX 2, AUX 3, AUX 4, and AUX 5 for my Phillips PP609601. Any idea where else I can start looking? I'm going to place a post in the discrete hunter forum.

I did a search on Philips tv. If you search, put it in exactly this way: +"philips tv" in all forums. There were a lot of replies, and they all say something about philips tv's having a different system. This thread probably explains it better than most: [Link: remotecentral.com].

Yay!

Different Sony remote model (RM-VL900), but using that Radio Shack remote as a helper is still a fine tip. I was getting frustrated with mine because power-toggle remote codes made it hard to do macros.

After seeing this thread I ran to RS and snagged one of their few remaining 15-2104's for $9.97. It yielded those separate on and off codes before being retired into a drawer in case it's needed later. In fact all the other remotes except the RM-VL900 are finally in that same drawer now, with their batteries removed. :-)

Each component uses the POWER button for 'on' and PIP for 'off' (my TV doesn't have PIP, so the feature isn't missed). Might change my mind later about that setup, but for now it's easy enough to remember.

Since this is an old thread, can anyone tell me which Radio Shack remote is available for discrete codes. I just purchased an AV 3000.

Thanks