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Post 1 made on Saturday November 8, 2008 at 12:44
snmhanson
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I am in the market for a new remote for a theatre area we are going to be completing in the next few months. Currrently I use Universal MX-700s throughout the house and they work well but aren't exactly as polished as the newer remotes. I really like the Nevo line on paper but wonder if it will live up to it's description and specs in practice. The theare is going to have a projecore, pre-amp and various local source devices and I am also going to have a couple devices (DVR, PS3) pumped in from a seperate media room that I will have to control. I do have an IR repeater system via a Russound CAM that I can use for IR repeating but something a little more integrated/dedicated would be nice.

Anyway, as I said the remote seems spot on for what I'm after concerning design and customization. I am essentially going to have to control gear in three different locations since the projector is seperate from the local equipment and there is equipment in a second room as well, but I am thinking two NevoConnects would suffice. One NevoConnect could be used for the local equipment via emmiters and aimed to blast signals to the projector and the other would be for the equipment in the other room. Even though I can get them at great prices the 70 is still out of reach an I am looking at the Q50. My biggest concern is reliability. I have seen several posts with reliability issues but upon closer examination it seems that it may be only a few people describing their negative experiences in several different threads. Not sure on that though so any input on reliability would be great. Also, a simple question, but if I set a component on the remote to be controlled via the Z-Wave interface through NevoConnect will the remote still emit IR signals when controlling that component as well? I assume and would hope not but it is a key questions that I could not find the answer to anywhere. Other than that, anything anyone else wants to add would be great. Am I on the right track with this remote?

Thanks,

Matt


P.S. I don't suppose anyone would mind e-mailing me or somehow getting me a copy of the Nevo software. I would really like to start setting up the remote even though it may be a month or so before I actually get it.
Post 2 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 01:03
motech
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once you set remote to use rf for a device, it will only send it via rf,
you can also assign one or multiple ports of the connect for that.

you might also need only one nevo connect
if you have cat5 running between the two eq locations,
you can splice 4 emitters per cat5. and if you find dual
head emitters that means over one cat5 you can control 8 devices..


so basically you have the nevo connect in the first location controlling
those devices, and from there a cat5 running to second location with spliced in emitters to control 2nd location devices . .

take the money you were gonna use on the 2nd nevo connect and get S70 . .

both amazing remotes,
sold and installed about 20 of them in the past 2-3 months.
love them so far...
Post 3 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 12:00
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Great questions.
The reliablity has been very good with the new gen Q50 and S70.
All the posts you read about reliablity is for the old first gen model - the SL.

The one thing you can do if you want to control a device via RF (nevo connect) and direct IR is to have two devices added into the configuration - one directed to the NevoConnect and the other direct IR from the remote.
ie. If you have a Generic TV you want both IR and RF then in StudioPro - you'd add 2 Generic TVs to the device list - label one as Generic TV RF and one as Generic TV IR. Assign the Generic TV RF to a port on the Connect and the other is left unassigned.

The only problem with that is that the IR from the remote might reach the TV before the RF signal. Simple physics - IR (light) travels faster than sound (RF). Might screw something up.

My Q50 and S70 are very relaible.

Depending on the distance between your theatre room racks and your remote sources - you may need two Nevo Connects.
Drew
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Post 4 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 12:09
motech
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in my clients homes,
i usually keep the nevo connect local (behind tv, under bed, under couch, etc)
and run all emitters via cat5 to equipment location, over 100 feet sometimes,
that way the connect is local, ensuring perfect reception . .

zero issues ..
you can even extend rs232, and video sensors in a similar manner . .
Post 5 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 14:28
Droo
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Good Tech Tip - motech.

So you've never had any problems with lenght of the run for IR transmittion?
I know I help one of my integrators on a job that he was sending IR from the equipment rack to a Samsung 19" LCD in the Kitchen - run was about 50ft. We had to crank up the level on the bottom of the NevoConnect for that port so the Sammy would respond properly.

Any issues like that?
Drew
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OP | Post 6 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 23:03
snmhanson
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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it will be a Nevo then. Not sure whether the Q50 or S70 - even the dealer cost of the S70 is pretty staggering (although I do think it is a great product). As far as running the emmiters and sensors over cat5e, do I just splice the cat5e into one of the Nevo sensors or is it more of a home brew type of thing? I would love to be able to feed multiple locations off of one NevoConnect. The other location will probably be about a 40' run. Concerning the issue of RF and IR commands, I actually wanted to make sure I would avoid it. Seems like it would be problematic to have two identical signals hit the device (such as channel up) at the same time. Sounds like I'm a-ok there though.

Thanks again for the replies. If anyone has anything else to add feel free.

Matt
Post 7 made on Sunday November 9, 2008 at 23:13
motech
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regarding cat5 extending . .

you are better off getting standard emitters from xantech or niles etc . .
then just splicing them over cat5 - 1 pair (2 wires) per emitter ..

again, a dual head emitter will give you more output per port..

just strip, twist and tape (or button or whatever)


regarding samsung tv over 50 feet,
ive spliced further and never had to adjust the strength as of yet . .
but ive only done it about a dozen times with the connect.
the beauty of the connect though, is you have the option to adjust strength if needed . .


how many devices are you controlling total per location?


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