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Post 1 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 22:08
Peter Black
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I have managed to successfully get the Nevo to control my projector, HD Set top box, Receiver, a Tivo, a DVD player, an Xbox and a Windows Media Centre PC. Pretty cool – also the Wife Acceptance Factor is very good.

I'd like to get the Nevo Media Server / Player combination working too, but I've hit a road block. I’ve managed to get the Nevo talking to my wireless network (ie I can ping it from any networked PC) but I can’t get Nevo Studio to see the Media Server at all.

I’ve fiddled with the firewall settings (both Microsoft and Norton) but nothing seems to make the Media Server come up in the Nevo Studio window where you select the source for your music to pair it with the player for that source.

I've read the networking whitepaper on the Nevo site and while informative it hasn't given me the magic piece of information to solve my problem.

Does anyone know if there is a particular set-up trick to get this working? I suspect it is something to do with windows networking or security, but I've exhausted my ideas.

Hope someone can help.

TIA, Peter.
Peter
Post 2 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 00:36
rambhagwat
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This sounds very tricky. Actually there are no specific settings needed for the Nevo Server to appear in the Nevo Studio. You have mentioned about pinging the Nevo, however, even the Nevo remote is insignificant for the setting that you are talking about. Yes, one thing ... the Nevo Media server must be running on some machine on the wireless network. I presume, in your case the Nevo server must be running and probably on the same machine as the Nevo Studio. Does the Nevo Server get loaded automatically at the start of your PC? If not, load it and then try the Nevo Studio. This suggestion may sound a bit stupid, but thats the only thing comes to my mind.

Thanks
Ram Bhagwat
India
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 05:40
Peter Black
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Thanks for your input. You are of course right the fact that I can see the Nevo on the network is not relevant to the set-up for the media server - DOH!

My config is as follows:

The Nevo Media Server is running on a Media Centre PC in my home theatre connected to the home network via cat5 cable. Nevo Media Server is in the startup folder and is running and active.

Nevo Studio is running on a laptop - connected to the network via wi-fi.

As far as I understand the fact that the laptop is wireless and the Media Server is cabled should not be an issue. They are on the same sub-net and I can ping the Media Centre PC from the laptop and vice versa.

I started out on a tangent and wondered if the problem was my router, but that should only affect things outside my internal 192.168.etc.etc network.

I've run out of clues...........

Thanks

Peter.
Peter
Post 4 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 09:10
cgjones
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Just an outside chance, go to start menu on xp and run services.msc find the upnp service and make sure it is running.

If it is, stop it. It may be that you have Mindows Media Connect running and you don't know it. My Nevo setup doesn't like it when there is more than one server to choose from.

From my point of view, the Media Zones is in very early development and is very temperamental so don't expect too much at the moment.

Hope this helps
Post 5 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 12:52
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I believe you should have Nevo Media Player and Nevo Media Server both running on the target PC, (the one with the content you are after.) Both should show in the systray.

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OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 15:17
Peter Black
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Thanks cgjones - I'll try your suggestion when I get home from work tonight.

Also thanks Dave - I do have both Server and Player active on the target machine.

More experiments tonight - I'll report back.

Thanks, Peter.
Peter
Post 7 made on Thursday February 9, 2006 at 02:14
Winfried.Winkler
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Hi Peter,

please be aware that you have only one IP-address active. There are definitively problems when the system which is running NevoStudio has more than one IP-address!

I hope you find an solution.

Winfried
OP | Post 8 made on Thursday February 9, 2006 at 05:55
Peter Black
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Interesting........

I found a UPnP service running on my laptop (a Sony Vaio which was running a Vaio Entertainment Adaptor - something I've never used) which I stopped.

There was no apparent UPnP service running on the Media Centre PC (Where Nevo Server and Client are running) - although there are tons of services running - some obvious and some a total mystery - so maybe there is one which is an "undeclared" UPnP - but I'm damned if I know how to tell.

At one suggestion I found on the net - I enabled the UPnP user interface in "Add/Remove Programs - Windows Components - Network etc." which lets you see UPnP connections in "My Network Places".

I rebooted the media centre PC and when it came up I could see both the Nevo Media Server and Nevo Media Player in "My Network Places" on my laptop - although neither of them was available when I cliked on them, but I have no idea if they should do anything from there as I've never done that before.

Unfortunately the behaviour of Nevo Studio is just the same as before - it will not see either device.

I tried rebooting the laptop, then killing the extra UPnP service then rebooting the Media Centre PC - and I could see the Nevo Server and Player come up in the My Network Places window on the laptop.

Then tried Nevo Studio again and the same problem - I add a new network place and look for either a server or a player to pair and find neither.

I must be doing something wrong, but whatever it is it is not obvious to me.

Again, any thoughts would be appreciated.

Peter.
Peter
Post 9 made on Thursday February 9, 2006 at 07:23
rambhagwat
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Hi Peter,

Since you have a setup where more than one computer is running, there could be another possibility. I believe there is a DHCP server in the router which supplies the IP addresses to all the devices. These addresses are of the type 192.168.x.x. If any component can not get onto the wifi network for whatever reasons, it gets its address of the type 169.254 using some AutoIP process. If either of your Vaio or the Media centre PC has this kind of IP address there are network problems. I had similar problem with my Nevo itself. What I did was that I went into the Admin mode of the Router (thru Internet Explorer) and instructed the DHCP server to Re-Issue all the IP addresses. It seemed to work.

Although ddarche has suggested that both the Nevo Server as well as Nevo Player should be loaded, I am not sure if that is the requirement. I have been using my setup without the Nevo Player. In fact I deliberately delete the Player after it gets loaded along with the Server.

Thanks
Ram Bhagwat
India
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday February 9, 2006 at 17:40
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Thanks for your input Ram.

My router does serve DHCP, but that is all working well. On the router admin screen I can see that it has allocated addresses in the correct range (all 192.168.0.x) to all the devices in my network - including the Nevo itself. Also I can ping the Media Centre from the laptop and vice versa, and I can see the Nevo Server and Nevo Player in the "My Network Places" window on the laptop.

It's just that Nevo Studio can't see them ;-(

So near, yet so far.

Peter.
Peter
Post 11 made on Thursday February 9, 2006 at 17:59
Richard@AC
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Your problem seems to stem from UPnP port blocking.

Open Norton Anti-virus, go to Internet Worm Protection. Open General rules. You may find that ports 5000 and 1900 are blocked. These are required to be open for UPnP I/O. If so, permit both ports and you're good to go.

In Norton 2005 you will find them in "Trojan, General Rules".

Best,

Richard
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OP | Post 12 made on Friday February 10, 2006 at 04:53
Peter Black
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Richard - you were exactly on the money! Thanks very much!

Despite believing I'd opened everything up - I'd not found the right page in Norton and just as you suggested ports 5000 and 1900 were blocked. I opened them for an IP address range in my internal network and now everything works!!

I must say I'm pretty impressed with the ability to drive my media collection wirelessly - I do not have a Nevo Link, but I can still select music and have it play on the second zone out of the home theatre receiver without being in the theatre room! V Cool!

I cant wait to show some of my sceptical friends the album covers on the remote!!!

Nevo goes up another notch in my opinion.

And thanks to the folk who helped point me in the right direction ;-)

Peter.
Peter


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