The MX-700 is still MSRP at $500.

I own an MX-500 but would love to try out other peoples solutions. The free exchange of solutions for multitudes of components is what attracts me to this. This will not only benefit new owners, but also will attract those that think they're done with programming.

Kranston, it doesn't matter what the MSRP of the MX-700 is - folks like Bluedo.com were discounting it from the first week, and that's the comparison that most in this forum will make - going price for the MX-700 versus going price for the MX-500 USB module.

I would like to add my support to Mike and Dave for the USB Mx-500 interface. Having been involved with hardware and software development my entire career their target price is very fair. They have put a lot of effort on this project and it does not end once they release it.

Given their able to have the proper quality controls and product support this product will be a success!!

Dave

It would be very interesting if we needed an MX-500 file section on this site.

... Greg

David Harrison,
You may think it does not matter. That's your opinion. I gave mine. That's all. The 700 was designed to be used by custom installers who are AUTHORIZED dealers (let's leave that there). What do you think they charge for it? My point was that things are more expensive upon early release. People rationalize that if the 700 was $100 less it would be comparable to other devices with similar abilities that one could buy, like the Pronto.
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These guys are trying to get something in return for their efforts.

I'm sure we all will want Mike C et. al. to do all this creation, and have to provide support, and answer e-mails, and provide software upgrades after we have a list of things we would love for the software to have, and all sorts of other things after sales begin...and hope he does not charge for it after he sells the thing for $60.00! That's Just Crazy. These guys are not some big company (right now, he, he).

Perhaps we should have a "poll" where each person types in what he/she would pay and we get a running average of that. That'll be funny.

Or perhaps Mike C should have kept things quiet, designed and produce the thing. Then pay for an ad on RC and sell it for $100. Bet it would move, though folks would groan (like I did with the 700).

Sorry for the slight vent.
Kranston

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your answer! This sounds very promising!
I can hardly wait until I can get my "region switching macros" for my Pioneer to work. Until then my MX-500 is not the ultimate remote I hoped for in the beginning. But now I have good hopes at least.

Is there anything I can do at the moment in order to move forward regarding this problem?

Thanks,

Joakim

Joakim

Please email me a list of the steps in the macro and the code for the device so that I can set it up and try it. Let me know exactly which step(s) are problematical.

Mike

Kranston - please don't put words in my mouth. I have never said that Mike and Dave are not free to set any price that they want. I have also *very* clearly said that for many users, their new package plus an MX-500 is a cost-effective alternative to an MX-700. I have also *not* disrespected your opinion in any way - I simply added a point which you didn't mention in your original post.

Mike C,

Have you run into any problems with memory limitations? Just wondering if trying to make the MX-500 do more than it was originally supposed to do (macros on LCD buttons other than Device buttons for example), would be a problem with the current memory allocation setup.

Mike
Surf Remote Control

Mike C,

I think you will find it is a question of what the software can do that will decide for most of us whether $100 or whatever is worth it. Certainly for me. As I said before, the issue is not with your work, it is the remote. The MX-500 is fairly set in its ways. It doesn't have macro abilities like the 700 or even a jp1 remote. It doesn't have long code capabilities like some Sony remotes. And I, for one, am not confident that the Clone method you use can overcome this design. If you guys find a way around that, your product will easily move at $100. If you can't find a way around it, some people may find other options.

For me personally, it all hinges on macro use on non-macro buttons. I'd say those advanced capabilities you've mentioned for upgrade releases are the most important items for you to be able to sell this device.

At first I would like to say that I followed the threads from their beginning. Like many others I expected a price around $50-70. I think that $100 is a reasonable price if you consider what you get and how much time it can save you. But of course this is up to the individual.

Personally I don't think that I will move around buttons or change the setup once I got it to work the way I want it to be (as soon as I'll get my MX-500). However, Mike's device will probably save me some time and will therefore be worth a consideration. I am going to wait until the thing is available and then decide on it AND on the buy of the MX-500.

There is one thing I am wondering about. If the price were at $50 - would there be more than twice the number of buyers than at $100?

This message was edited by The Frog on 10/11/02 14:23.32.

Frog,

It's hardware - you can't make up losses with volume! If we were only talking about software, reducing the price to increase customers is a viable option. But when hardware is involved, (and the new price is below cost!) I doubt it's fiscally feasible.

David Harrison,
I did not put words in your mouth. If you notice, I addressed some comments to you with regard to the $130 and to illustrate the point that others have (and will) pay more than what bluedo is selling the MX700 for...if they get it from an authorized dealer. Therefore, I think this does matter. I happened to buy my 700 from bluedo. If you notice, after I finished I wrote "END" and then added some further comments that had nothing to do with you. I apologize if it seemed otherwise. The comment that you made on 10/10 had some good points. I just pointed out that some other folks will pay more than one might think for a 700. I feel an MX500 with the IRclone package for $100 is still a good deal. But I did not put words in your mouth, though my post may have been confusing with that regard.
Kranston

The package would have a higher value if the hardware receiver would work with Girder control software. That would save the cost of having to buy an additional IR receiver for Girder. A much higher value for those who are trying to control their Home Theatre Computer.