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On Site - MX980 macro issues
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OP | Post 16 made on Wednesday April 18, 2012 at 22:04
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I left everything set to ALL ports as it worked fine. I had several things to do besides that on a limited timeframe, so I didn't mess around after I found that it was working. I may have to change it in the future as he has a second 980 that came with the house that we will probably be using when we work on his downstairs systems. Thanks for all the input guys.
Post 17 made on Wednesday April 18, 2012 at 22:09
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On April 18, 2012 at 21:13, Audiophiliac said...
...widespread problem with the 980/350 combo. URC does not take it seriously and will not fix it.

There is a thread on the urc forum about it that is quite long.

...backing up the claim that URC won't do anything about it. "We missed it before we sent it to you guys for beta testing, and that's the way it is." We end up being the master betas. Thanks, URC.
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Post 18 made on Wednesday April 18, 2012 at 22:13
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If you want to hear a story about installers being beta testers, I have a good one! ;)
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Post 19 made on Wednesday April 18, 2012 at 22:24
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This thread comes at a perfect time , I working on a job with that combo. I'm going to look like a rock star if this problem comes up and I fix thanks !
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Post 20 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 02:11
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On April 18, 2012 at 22:13, Audiophiliac said...
If you want to hear a story about installers being beta testers, I have a good one! ;)

Just read my last post out loud.
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Post 21 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 02:54
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I see what you did there.
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Post 22 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 14:30
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On April 18, 2012 at 18:01, MacrossZero said...
Here is one that I did over the weekend, hopefully it helps.

Look at the first line of that Pic, "WATCH" IR Port is set to All.

The software lets you assign, say Cable Box to port 1, BDP to port 2, xbox360 to port 3. The problem is codes for the cable box will only shot out port 1 when you are ON the cable device page! So any macros to turn the system on from 'Watch" or "Listen" or "Main" will only work if you set the IR port to ALL.

Its a silly design choice that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, whats even worse, I don't think PUNCH TROUGHS for Volume will work properly due to how port assignment is based on programmed device and not physical device present.
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 16:29
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On April 19, 2012 at 14:30, thecynic315 said...
Look at the first line of that Pic, "WATCH" IR Port is set to All.

The software lets you assign, say Cable Box to port 1, BDP to port 2, xbox360 to port 3. The problem is codes for the cable box will only shot out port 1 when you are ON the cable device page! So any macros to turn the system on from 'Watch" or "Listen" or "Main" will only work if you set the IR port to ALL.

This is 100% incorrect. Assigning the IR ports will send the codes to the appropriate devices from anywhere on the remote. You can alias a cable channel up and down button within your Bluray device and it will still control your cable channels. Same goes for punch throughs and everything else.
Post 24 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 16:31
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You got it all wrong cynic. Macros will alias whatever device you send a command to and route the right commands to the assigned ports regardless of anything else. If you assign codes to buttons on the watch page, then they will be sent to ALL ports or a specific port if you assigned it one.

Punch through works the same way. That is the point of IR routing. Sending devices only the commands they need.
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Post 25 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 16:48
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Really?

Cause I have never gotten it to work correctly on URC, so I just always set to ALL
Post 26 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 19:21
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On April 19, 2012 at 16:31, Audiophiliac said...
You got it all wrong cynic. Macros will alias whatever device you send a command to and route the right commands to the assigned ports regardless of anything else. If you assign codes to buttons on the watch page, then they will be sent to ALL ports or a specific port if you assigned it one.

Punch through works the same way. That is the point of IR routing. Sending devices only the commands they need.

This is correct. Cynic is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!. It matters not where you configure the Watch page if the macro is aliasing devices that are assigned properly.

URC CCP 101!

I've programmed over a hundred MX980 and 350 combos and never had the issue that the OP is indicating. I typically use .2 (sometimes .3 delays) and never had the issues.

However, I HAVE had occasional macros that fail to issue a command, even when the command works perfectly while pressing the button manually. What has worked for me, is to bump up the repeats (on the command that is not working in the macro) while pressed, to 4 or 5, and that solves it. I've had this issue with the MX-1200 too. It makes no sense but it has solved the rare occasions this issue (that the OP indicated) has occurred.
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OP | Post 27 made on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 20:46
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On April 19, 2012 at 16:48, thecynic315 said...
Really?

Cause I have never gotten it to work correctly on URC, so I just always set to ALL

Do you drag codes from the IR Database Navigator into devices that do not match that code? What I mean is do you drag say a Power Off command for the TV from the IR Database Navigator to the cable box macro? In this case, it will not know where to send the command. You would want to drag the command to the TV device, and then alias is within the macro properly. This is about the only way it would not work once the ports were assigned.
Post 28 made on Saturday April 21, 2012 at 11:12
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He may have a point though. Cynic are you saying this might be the bug with the 980+350?

The guys are right, it's not normal behavior as you describe, but I can recall experiencing something like this the one time I tried to route on a 980+350. Set to ALL and all was well.
Post 29 made on Saturday April 21, 2012 at 17:16
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While it probably makes all sorts of sense to an person with OCD (not accusing anybody), I don't see any gain to come from
Sending devices only the commands they need.

And can anyone tell me of any negatives of setting the routing to ALL?

Of course, if you have more than one of a particular device, you'll have to route to avoid switching more than one at a time. But otherwise, someone say something definitive, please, about disadvantages of sending to ALL.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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OP | Post 30 made on Saturday April 21, 2012 at 17:58
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On April 21, 2012 at 17:16, Ernie Gilman said...
While it probably makes all sorts of sense to an person with OCD (not accusing anybody), I don't see any gain to come from

And can anyone tell me of any negatives of setting the routing to ALL?

Of course, if you have more than one of a particular device, you'll have to route to avoid switching more than one at a time. But otherwise, someone say something definitive, please, about disadvantages of sending to ALL.

The only negative I have found are the people that do not like to see the emitter flashing on the TV everytime they adjust their volume. This situation is few and far between, so really a non issue 99% of the time.
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