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MX-810 - Problems w/ Activity Macros
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Post 1 made on Monday March 24, 2008 at 16:50
Scott-C
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My setup includes an MX-810/MRF-350 combo and exclusively uses RF - I have selected RF for each device and turned off the IR blaster on both of my MRF-350s. Using the 810's Pro Wizard software, I have built Activities for things such as "Watch Blu-Ray" and "Watch TV." However, a few errors are present, and I am wondering if anyone can shed some light on whether they can be fixed:

1. The activities I build do not always turn on my projector (JVC RS2). By that I mean that on some activities, it turns on (all the time). On other activities, it never turns on.

2. The activities NEVER turn off my projector when I use the red hard power button to power off the activity. The IR code I have assigned to the PJ Power Off button works just fine if I use it in the Device itself, but not as part of an activity that involves powering off the PJ. I've checked all the activities and power management screens to ensure they are set up correctly, but to no avail.

3. The workaround I have found for the problems described above is to go into the Browser, delete the PJ "On" and "Off" commands that do not work, and manually add the commands back in. I do this by selecting them from the lists of commands on the left side of the browser, which of course are the commands for each device I've programmed into the MX-810 in the first place. I have taken to dragging in the command in the "Imported Panel View" window because it usually has a description that allows me to identify the intent of the command.

4. The problem is that the minute I manually add in any commands using the browser, and then engage an activity, the screen that pops up says "Please keep the remote pointed. Professional programming is now taking place" even though I have turned off all IR! If I create an activity but don't modify it in the Browser, I get the correct "No need to point the remote; Professional programming is now taking place" message.

Why would the message change just because I use the Browser to tailor my Activity macros to my liking?

Also, I do wish my PJ would turn off as part of the Activity I initially built, but this seems to be a bug with no fix. I've tried two projectors and have had this problem with both.

Can anyone help with #4 above?

Thanks!

Scott
Post 2 made on Monday March 24, 2008 at 17:23
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I agree with the problem of power on and off in macros being buggy, and I discovered the same workaround. It's clunky, but it works. In fact, doing anything in the Browser, rather than the Wizard seems to produce a more reliable, predictable result.

I haven't done an 810 using RF yet, so I haven't encountered the rogue wait screen, but it sounds typical - sort of like the button or icon that can't be changed until you move it or paste and save a blank icon over it. (If you haven't run into that one yet, you will.)

One workaround for the rogue wait screen would be to trick the program by substituting a duplicate RF wait screen graphic for the IR one in the program data files (or even create a personalized version.) If you look up the tutorial in this forum on making custom button icons for the 810, it has enough info to swap-out a wait screen or any other full page graphic. All the graphics are in open, viewable files, so it's pretty easy. Just be sure to keep a back-up copy of the original graphics library.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday March 24, 2008 at 20:44
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Thanks Spoffo; that's actually a pretty good idea! I like it, and will have to investigate making a custom RF wait screen graphic, or personalized one. Hopefully, it doesn't require a lot of custom work or programming; that's why I gave up my MX-3000. :)
Post 4 made on Monday March 24, 2008 at 23:17
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I just did a custom wait pasge on a 810 I'm programming for my son, and made a screen featuring one of his kids. (I'll try to send it to you in a PM. I don't appear to have enough privileges to post a picture)

If you go into the program files for the Wizard look for the folder "system" and in that a folder "images". There you'll find two graphics labeled "ProgressIR" and "ProgressRF" They're each 176 px wide by 220 px high and must be in .png format. Using a graphics program of your choice (I use PhotoShop), create an image of that size and format and substitute it, using the progress name.

That's it. Next time you upload to the remote, your custom screen will replace the boring factory wait page. If I were a custom installer (I just play one on TV) I'd certainly change this page and maybe the activities backgrounds, too, to something classy featuring my own logo.

Have fun.
Post 5 made on Tuesday March 25, 2008 at 01:47
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My first question to you would be Scott is did everything work before you went to RF? I have a similar setup that you mentioned, and I couldn't get a bullet proof system with RF, so I went back to IR to make sure, and sure enough there were some problems.

I went back to time the boot-up and inputs of each piece of gear and got it perfect through IR. Then I implemented the RF and turned the base station IR off, and now it works 95% of the time. I then realized that a tap to hit the activity was too short, and now I'm holding the button for 1-2 seconds and it's up to 98%.
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OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday March 25, 2008 at 21:48
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bmode,

Aside from the aforementioned PJ issues, RF has been bulletproof for me (knock on wood!). I'm just hoping it stays that way!

Spoffo, I got your email message - thanks! I am going to play around with that very soon.

Scott
OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday March 25, 2008 at 22:15
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OK, I think I am going crazy. As a first step, I thought I would rename the "ProgressRF" graphic to "ProgressIR" to trick the program into displaying the RF message instead of the IR message. I changed the name of the existing IR graphic to "ProgressIR_Original", made a copy of the "ProgressRF" graphic, and then renamed the copy "ProgressIR".

Every time I do this last step, the picture immediately reverts back to the "IR" graphic's picture (In Windows Explorer).

What the heck is going on here?
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday March 25, 2008 at 22:42
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Never mind; using Paint Shop Pro I was able to do what Windows Explorer would not allow! I love Microsoft...
Post 9 made on Wednesday March 26, 2008 at 01:20
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I love Microsoft... That's blasphemy!
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Post 10 made on Tuesday April 1, 2008 at 11:47
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Did you try "edit Off button" to see if the projector Off command is being sent?

Is anyone using the ON button or are you just pressing the activity button when the system is off?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."


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