On February 19, 2007 at 21:23, Steve@EI said...
I love all the ups and downs, how many people really want
to get to know the truth and see if this works and works
well. I will put out a challenge to say the synical five
that want to kill me for being a start up, HP partner,
and a microsoft platform product. Ok maybe their is more
than five of you. Any how, lets go offline and spec an
average automation system, say 12 zones of audio, 2 thermostats,
a security system, a basic media room, and say 50 loads
of lighting, four plasmas, and say two cameras. All the
active folks on here sort out who the five are and agree
on amx or crestron and spec the system at full msrp and
programming. I will fly you out to our headquarters and
we will spec and setup the exact system using our gear
and MCE in a basic home and if at the end it doesn't work
and work impressively well, I will pay you your normal
day labor rate and let you go home a winner. But if it
does work and and we bring in average people off the street
who can use it. You guys place an opening order with us.
I know this is bizarre, and i am definetly spending
way more money than we normally spend to get a customer,
but there is no smoke and mirrors here. We will put our
money where our mouth is. If coming to columbus ohio
in winter is not appealling, we will set this up as a
dealer challenge at CEDIA. You guys tell me if your game,
but i can type all year long and it doesn't get any better
than what i have offered. I live with this stuff, and
it is real and if the only way to convince you is to have
you do it and get paid for it, lets do it.
Steve, I would ask, what products would you guys be using to accomplish this type of integration? What DA system, what lighting, what plasmas? etc etc. My guess would be Russound, Radio Ra and whatever plasmas would be available. It isn't that hard to come up with something cheaper. That really isn't the question. The question is will it work and what are the capabilities. I would say that if my above assumptions are corect, then yes, you could probably devise a system that is cheaper because the subsystems are cheaper. I would also say that Ra is a lousy candidate for this hypothetical. 50 loads with a chronos is really pushing the limits of RA. I know its possible, but how many here would do it? Lets change it to 65 lighting loads. Then what happens? I would also say that Russound is a bad solution for this hypothetical. Is six sources really enough for a 12 zone DAsystem? Again, how many here would want to use a Russound system that is available to every DIY on the net for cost?
The real comparison is the control system. That is what it seems like you are trying to sell us. (It doesn't seem like you are really trying to sell a control system to anyone else, JMO) What is the MSRP for your system for a dedicated controller, one or more of your touchpanels to run it and your hypothetical 50 lighting loads, 12 DA zones and the other items. That is your challenge. Given the exact same source components and subsystems, what is the MSRP of your system. Leaving out installation since the same wires will be needed regardless. This is what I am curious about.
