I wondered about you Mr Grffiths..i think that hanging out at the pubs you had little chance..too much temptation..youre certainly not a loser..i personally wouldnt even think of trying to go 40 days without a beer..Alcoholic ?..nahhhhh...selfish?..a bit...thumbs up for trying..by the way, in some other forum i started a thread about beer..became quite popular..it was interesting to see what others enjoyed around the world,and i think youd agree that this site could use a bit of looseing up sometimes..tonight ill be enjoying a sam adams hefeweizen...CHEERS!