I have been on the URC control room forums again and they are still not revealing the details of this dangling certification thing for their over priced IP remotes. They say "one of the things" required for certification to sell these things is their web training classes. For months there have been posts from folks who have completed the classes wondering what is next. What is the strategy here? Come out with a series of expensive ip products and erect a bureaucracy in front of them at the same time that iPad based solutions are grabbing all the headlines? Good grief Charlie Brown.