We initially spec'd a T4 for control over the Netstreams system as well as viewing the 4 outdoor Panny cameras.

At first I thought that the customer would use this for remote control in their TV room but it will not be used for remote control of any other system components. so the device is spec'd in and customer has said OK to the cost but.....

Is there a better alternative? Basicaly I'm sure the T4 is overkill. For this purpose.

Besides the T4:

I know I can use basically any wireless touch computer/tablet, etc that can do flash for the netstreams system. I can also then pull up Panny cameras on the browser. The thing about this is I beilieve you need to enter the username and password and download the damn active x control each time when using the browser. I'm sure there is a better way and like I said this is my first time using cameras.

I have read posts that have mentioned that the cameras are easy on the T4. Don't know what viewing is like. Is the video full motion or just the Jpeg clips every second or two? On the browser you get full motion audio and video so that's pretty cool. In addition, I know that there are issues with the Netstreams system over the T4 based on the forum responses as well as far as speed.

That is why I am curious if there is a byetter tablet type alternative that the customer can walk around with, for these two functions that is will be faster and more reliable that the T4 or is the T4 the best bet.

The motion is pretty much full motion depending on the network of course.

Your customer will not walk around the house with a tablet everywhere they go. The best thing about any In-wall keypad is that they are always in the same place - in the wall right where you left it, not in the other room or in the couch cushins or getting chewed up by the dog.

Seems like you could do all of this on an RK3, or multiple RK3s in more convienent locations.

I couldn't agree more...what about something as simple as an iTouch...too small?

Just to clarify, I haven't done this yet

- but it SHOULD work through the same wireless. The T4 does have a lag time for the netstreams control - I know this sounds silly, but it seems to go away after 30 seconds...almost as if it hasn't downloaded the whole page yet...should take so long but it does.

First off, just about every room has a touchlynx in wall touchscreen for control. The customer wants, and thus we want to deliver, a touch panel that they can walk around with and have the the ability to control the Netstreams system as well as view the cameras.

I know I can view the cameras from within the netstreams system. However, as Springs had mentioned, I am looking to get the full motion video that you get when you login on th web browser and use the active X control. I assume this is what you get with the Panny camera object on the T4.


The issue also with Netstreams is that it may take 30 seconds for the load time and then be fine but....Once you leave the browser session to then do something else, in this case, view the cameras, and then go back to the browser for Netstreams you have to start all over and have that delay. Plus you then have to drill down to where you might have left off. Would be nice if the tablet could keep the session active, in the background and then allow you to go back to it.

It is these reasons as well and the lack of the need for remote control over other components that I thought that there might be a better tablet device to use in this case.

On my netstreams system I use an older Dell Axim PDA for wireless control of the digilinx system. It works great and really don't need much more screen real estate. I would think for a quick check of cameras that something like that would work as well.

Something of that size is also better to carry around the house.

HP still makes a few non-phone PDAs and Nokia has the older N700 and newer N800, which are internet devices. Haven't tried the Nokias, but they come with a flash capable Opera browser.

Well we decided to try the T4 and see for ourselves what happens. Worst case is the dreaded restocking charge.

Well is seems to work pretty good.

In regard to the Netstreams side. It does take like 12-15 seconds to initially load. But once it is loaded it is as quick as using a touchlynx. I had no isses all around the home. They do have a repeater and all seems fine. While you can view the camera's inside of the nestream system, I wanted to check out the video using the Panasonic Camera Object. This gives you the full motion video. This works great as well, once I figured out some things.

1) You cannot make the camera object any larger. If you do the image will not appear or will be all distorted. You also cannot shringk the 640x480 image size that is created by default. If you do you will get a error on the T4 when you go to view it. I also made up my screen before I every used this feature and thought I could created a multi-camera view. I put 4 320x240 images on one screen but only one appeared so I guess thats out of the question. Otherwise works well. Will go back to the customer house today with the finished product.

I know others have had issues with the Netstreams and slowness, is it just the load up time or are there other slow issues as well. I am wondering if it also has to do with the amount of memory one is using on the remote itself. In my case there is only 7 pages and there isn't any remote processors or remote control features.

1) Home page
2) Netstream Web View
3) Camera1
4) camera2
5) Camera3
6) Camera4
7) Clean Screen