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Post 106 made on Saturday June 18, 2005 at 01:00 |
Daniel Tonks Wrangler of Remotes |
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Heh, go to Google and type in "theater logic", then press the "I'm feeling lucky" button.
Whoops - if you had reason to search on this you may not have been quite so lucky...
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Post 107 made on Saturday June 18, 2005 at 07:53 |
I thought some might find this news story interesting. This scam has a history dating back to the late 1980's.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri) February 16, 1990, FRIDAY, FIVE STAR Edition
4 BROTHERS INDICTED IN SWINDLE
Tim Bryant Of the Post-Dispatch Staff
Four brothers and companies they controlled were indicted here Thursday in a multimillion-dollar stereo speaker scam that authorities said operated throughout North America and in Australia. The scheme started slowly in 1982 but ran up more than $24 million in sales during the last 18 months of its operation, authorities said. Proceeds were from cash sales of poor-quality speakers passed off as speakers worth $849 each. Typically, young men recruited as salesmen peddled the speakers from the backs of vans, authorities said. Salesmen falsely told customers they were deliverymen who had been loaded with more speakers than they were supposed to deliver, the indictment said. James G. Martin, the assistant U.S. attorney who brought the indictment, said federal authorities - including Internal Revenue Service agents - began investigating the case July 13. They were helped by some former sales people. ''We have many former employees as witnesses,'' Martin said. Among those indicted were Ray, Gary, Thomas and Robert Sophie, brothers from the Chicago area. Gary Sophie was president of Network Sound Inc., of Schaumburg, Ill., Network Sound is one of five companies charged in the indictment, all in Schaumburg. The indictment identified the other Sophie brothers as executives of the companies. Network Sound began making the speakers in Schaumburg in 1987 and distributed them to other companies it controlled, Martin said. The Sophies, all in their 30s, were expected to surrender soon to federal authorities here. Although the speakers came in large cabinets and were packaged to make them appear expensive, each speaker cost only $35 to build, Martin said. The indictment said the sales scheme worked this way: Salesmen told customers that the speakers normally were available to bars and other commercial establishments only. Phony invoices showed that the speakers sold for $849. The salesmen would then sell customers a pair of speakers, usually for $200 to $500 in cash. The sellers were aggressive, hawking the speakers on parking lots, at gas stations and sometimes in moving traffic. The speakers, known as Acoustic Monitor dbIV and Dynamic Audio 1901, were sold here in the first half of 1988 and last summer, authorities said. The indictment said the defendants operated offices in more than 40 cities in the United States, Canada and Australia. Indicted with the Sophies were: Thomas McGough, Michael O'Hare and Guy Follet Jr., said to be officers or managers of some of the companies charged. McGough is from the Chicago area. No other information was available about O'Hare or Follet. The indictment charged the defendants with mail fraud, wire fraud and money laundering.
SBD
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Post 108 made on Saturday June 18, 2005 at 09:53 |
djy RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 34,761 |
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On 06/18/05 00:56 ET, Daniel Tonks said...
djy: And interestingly, this was your 6,666th post. ;-) Ah . . . I was wondering why . . . On 06/18/05 07:53 ET, SBD said...
I thought some might find this news story interesting. This scam has a history dating back to the late 1980's.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri) February 16, 1990, FRIDAY, FIVE STAR Edition
4 BROTHERS INDICTED IN SWINDLE
Tim Bryant Of the Post-Dispatch Staff
Four brothers and companies they controlled were indicted here Thursday in a multimillion-dollar stereo speaker scam that authorities said operated throughout North America and in Australia. The scheme started slowly in 1982 but ran up more than $24 million in sales during the last 18 months of its operation, authorities said. Proceeds were from cash sales of poor-quality speakers passed off as speakers worth $849 each. Typically, young men recruited as salesmen peddled the speakers from the backs of vans, authorities said. Salesmen falsely told customers they were deliverymen who had been loaded with more speakers than they were supposed to deliver, the indictment said. James G. Martin, the assistant U.S. attorney who brought the indictment, said federal authorities - including Internal Revenue Service agents - began investigating the case July 13. They were helped by some former sales people. ''We have many former employees as witnesses,'' Martin said. Among those indicted were Ray, Gary, Thomas and Robert Sophie, brothers from the Chicago area. Gary Sophie was president of Network Sound Inc., of Schaumburg, Ill., Network Sound is one of five companies charged in the indictment, all in Schaumburg. The indictment identified the other Sophie brothers as executives of the companies. Network Sound began making the speakers in Schaumburg in 1987 and distributed them to other companies it controlled, Martin said. The Sophies, all in their 30s, were expected to surrender soon to federal authorities here. Although the speakers came in large cabinets and were packaged to make them appear expensive, each speaker cost only $35 to build, Martin said. The indictment said the sales scheme worked this way: Salesmen told customers that the speakers normally were available to bars and other commercial establishments only. Phony invoices showed that the speakers sold for $849. The salesmen would then sell customers a pair of speakers, usually for $200 to $500 in cash. The sellers were aggressive, hawking the speakers on parking lots, at gas stations and sometimes in moving traffic. The speakers, known as Acoustic Monitor dbIV and Dynamic Audio 1901, were sold here in the first half of 1988 and last summer, authorities said. The indictment said the defendants operated offices in more than 40 cities in the United States, Canada and Australia. Indicted with the Sophies were: Thomas McGough, Michael O'Hare and Guy Follet Jr., said to be officers or managers of some of the companies charged. McGough is from the Chicago area. No other information was available about O'Hare or Follet. The indictment charged the defendants with mail fraud, wire fraud and money laundering.
SBD Which only goes to prove there's no con like an old con.
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Post 109 made on Saturday June 18, 2005 at 20:04 |
hoop Long Time Member |
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Yeah, the only difference between what they were doing then and now, is back then they had a phony invoice saying the speaker cost that much. That is definitely illegal; now they show a phony magaznie article that says the system is worth $2500. They are not breaking the law folks, you just got taken because you are greedy and stupid. Doesn't matter how mad you get, they didn't do anything illegal.
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Post 110 made on Sunday June 19, 2005 at 18:19 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
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Heh, go to Google and type in "theater logic", then press the "I'm feeling lucky" button. lol, wasn't that how they got in trouble in the first place? "they felt lucky" until they came here to gloat. PS just imagine this, there are probably people out there that still think they got 3k speakers because they never looked anything up
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Post 111 made on Monday June 20, 2005 at 10:41 |
djy RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 34,761 |
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On 06/19/05 18:19 ET, Anthony said...
PS just imagine this, there are probably people out there that still think they got 3k speakers because they never looked anything up Frightening thought, isn't it.
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Post 112 made on Thursday June 30, 2005 at 21:14 |
well i think you guys should be smarter than this. dont be blinded by the so called "good deals"... why would you want to buy something off of someone in the street anyway? to make things worse, something should click in your mind when they say these systems are really worth $2000 or so and they're selling it to you for $200-400....HELLLLOOOOOOO!
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Post 113 made on Thursday June 30, 2005 at 22:20 |
Marky_Mark896 Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2004 1,545 |
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Wow! The first voice of reason from someone that is a "It's my first day" in this entire post... And I believe it's a woman...
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Post 114 made on Friday July 1, 2005 at 02:39 |
djy RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 34,761 |
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Well, there's something about Mary.
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Post 115 made on Monday July 11, 2005 at 18:41 |
scammedidiot Lurking Member |
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Dude where in PA. I just got hit about an hour ago... Guy says 600 hundred and I say dont got it. He really was a good talker though, got me to pay 350. Smooth talker, kept acting like my friend. I wise up about five minutes later and try and catch him, and he speeds off..
Oh well, guess you live and learn...
Karma has finally caught up to me.
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Post 116 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 10:51 |
Spiky Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2001 2,288 |
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On 06/30/05 22:20 ET, Marky_Mark896 said...
Wow! The first voice of reason from someone that is a "It's my first day" in this entire post... And I believe it's a woman... Yeah, whatever. Just imagine if it was a piece of jewelry being sold in the parking lot.
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Post 117 made on Thursday July 14, 2005 at 03:14 |
djy RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 34,761 |
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Ahhhh . . . The shopping channels.
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Post 118 made on Monday July 18, 2005 at 13:41 |
Ok sooo my sister got hit by these guys and after coming home my dad figured out she got took pretty fast. He has always wanted a Bose system so he went and got one. Now we have an L6 just sittin in the box at our house. I once read on here that someone hooked it up to an x-box and i would greatly appreciate the info i need to do the same with mine. So if anyone knows how to hook the L6 up to an x-box game console please contact me by email. Thanks
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Post 119 made on Monday July 18, 2005 at 14:15 |
Marky_Mark896 Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2004 1,545 |
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Sounds like your dad got taken worse than your sister if he bought a blose system...
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Post 120 made on Monday July 18, 2005 at 16:11 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2001 28,872 |
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lol, I was waiting for someone to say that
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