Well if you want it, I can give you a listing for Rogers Mississauga, which is generally figured out. I haven't looked at (listened to) the audio channels, but they seem to map against your listing, just at a different channel. Its the promo and orphans which are difficult.
If you want a listing, let me know and I'll clean up what I have, and annotate a scan.
Geoff

I just updated the list. A few channel moves, two new radio stations, and at least where I am Sportsnet Pacific, CBUT and CBNT are now officially missing - the channels still exist however they're just showing a sports filler (and they're showing fine on my Rogers box).

If I had Analog Cable and possession of a Rogers Digital Terminal box, could I get the unscrambled channels simply by plugging it in? or do I actually need a QAM tuner?

The digital box will probably show you nothing - or at least only analog - until it is activated. But I don't know for sure.

Thanks. I phoned and they said there is a $2.99/month fee to activate 1 or more boxes at your residence. This is Rogers Cable in Mississauga.

I've gone ahead and bought a QAM tv top tuner; will chime in once I receive it.

Yeah, that seems like the stock Rogers fee. There's a $2.99 "digital fee" for any number of "normal" cable boxes, or $2.99 per PVR cable box.

So the question still then remains... if a built-in QAM tuner is used to access these unencrypted digital channels, does it still "phone home"?

Does what still "phone home"? A QAM tuner? They just receive signals, there's no communication going on.

Turned on the TV this morning to surf through some clear QAM channels and noticed that almost 100% of them now say scrambled.

And I am not talking about just the OnDemand channels, I am talking about all of the clear QAM channels.

Anyone else noticing this today?

Maybe this was a fluke, but the end may be near.

I'm in Thornhill. I bought an HVR-1600 about a month ago and had absolutely no luck trying to get either WinTV or the new version of GBPVR to see any QAM channels, even though I had the 74021 version with the QAM hardware and the proper beta drivers. So just to make sure I wasn't imagining things, I did just what bwiz2k3 did today—plugged a coax straight into the TV instead of through the set-top box and scanned for channels.

Aside from the On Demand channels and the music channels, everything appears black. The TV is registering a signal (other channels not found during the scan say there's no signal) so I'm guessing they're now encrypted channels. If my experiences with the tuner card are any indication, the blackout has been going on for a while now (though I can't say for certain because the tuner card didn't pick up the On Demand channels either, so who knows).

Well I checked again when I came home tonight and all the channels are gone except for the audio channels, omni channels and the OnDemand channels. All the rest say scrambled.

I am fairly sure this just happened over night last night as I frequently run through the OnDemand channels and then go up to TreeHouse for my daughter.

Welcome chrominance and thanks for the info.

Anybody else seeing the same thing?

I heard earlier this year that due to the popularity of QAM tuners Rogers was going to remove all unencrypted channels. And now that I think of it, there were a whole ton of unlabeled TEST channels in the 900 range I saw on my box earlier this week with stuff like CBC and City, which I suspect were the test encrypted channels before they remove the unencrypted versions.

I think that that has now happened, at least in Mississauga.
I was updating my mythtv setup last night and had a problem with the video on digital channels. I was not getting a good signal to the mythbox from the HdHomeRun.
This morning I ran a full scan using the HdHomeRun and ALL of the TV channels are now marked as encrypted. For example, what you listed as Channels 132.1738 and 132.1739 (which Rogers had as 125 (CBHT) and 122 (CJNT) respectively) now turn up in the scan like this:

SCANNING: 843000000 (us-cable:132, us-irc:132)
LOCK: qam256 (ss=75 snq=70 seq=100)
PROGRAM: 1: 0.0 (no data)
PROGRAM: 1732: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1733: 0.0 (no data)
PROGRAM: 1734: 0.0 (no data)
PROGRAM: 1735: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1736: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1737: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1738: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1739: 0.0 (encrypted)
PROGRAM: 1740: 0.0 (encrypted)

I am NOT sure whether all these channels are actually encrypted. A mythtv scan found 601 streams. When I updated against my EPG, which should have reduced that to 32 channels, I still ended up with 76 with duplicated names: 83#5 through 83#9 are all 'Showcase Diva'. and I do not think I got that previously. More time-wasting fun.

If they have encrypted everything, there will be a Channelmaster 8 bay on my roof toute-suite!
Geoff

Yes, the previously open QAM256 channels are now encrypted. And some of them may have been moved to different frequencies, but I cannot confirm that.

Drat!....Now what?
Geoff

Anyone still getting the radio stations? I only get the music channels plus CLT right now...