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Why do we technical people refuse to call things what they are?
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Post 46 made on Friday August 14, 2015 at 21:47
Mario
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Going back to the second or third post about using a level for plumb lines.
Level is both a flat horizontal plane and a name of a tool.

Sort of like hammer is used to drive nails, but because it also had the claw, the hammer can be used to pull nails out, much like pry-bar.

English is a weird language: things like "park in driveway and drive on underground highway", or setting "OFF the alarm".

I remember when I first started dating my now wife.
We lived an apartment complex on 2nd floor.
After going shopping, she asked me to get the groceries down.
I took them out of the Trailblazer and placed them on the ground.
She was as confused about the results as I was about her request.
I honestly thought she wanted me to get them out of the Trailblazer because she needed to take the SUV somewhere.
Post 47 made on Friday August 14, 2015 at 22:34
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Mr. Gilman. Yes I do care to participate but, I can not help myself when the opportunity rises to make a smart ass remark or possibly make someone laugh if they find it funny.
Post 48 made on Friday August 14, 2015 at 23:11
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On August 14, 2015 at 21:47, Mario said...
English is a weird language: things like "park in driveway and drive on underground highway", or setting "OFF the alarm".

One of the reasons why I make a point of saying "please turn up or down the temperature." Instead of "turn up or down the a/c".

For some, if you say "turn up the a/c" that means to make it colder, while others would think it means make it warmer.

KOT
OP | Post 49 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 03:45
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On August 14, 2015 at 23:11, King of typos said...
For some, if you say "turn up the a/c" that means to make it colder, while others would think it means make it warmer.

Exactly.

See, highfigh? You don't have to quote the whole post to comment on it.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 50 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 04:34
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On August 14, 2015 at 23:11, King of typos said...
One of the reasons why I make a point of saying "please turn up or down the temperature." Instead of "turn up or down the a/c".

For some, if you say "turn up the a/c" that means to make it colder, while others would think it means make it warmer.

KOT

To avoid confusion i say the temperature i want it at. 90% of the time this works fine because its at the office or my house or a hotel room ive been in for a while and now our cars have digital settings instead of just a slider so i know whats comfortable for me.

If everyone else is fine at 74 i need it at 68. So wherever i am i sweat or everyone else freezes. In the winter i usually leave the heat off when no one else is home or in the car with me.
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Post 51 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 07:32
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How about a question "do you mind if I xyz"?
The answer is almost always "yes" when they really mean "no, I don't mind".
Post 52 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 07:34
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Or how about "can I ask you a question?"
"yes" is an answer to that 1 question.
People should ask if they can ask 2 questions.
Post 53 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 13:43
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On August 15, 2015 at 07:34, Mario said...
Or how about "can I ask you a question?"
"yes" is an answer to that 1 question.
People should ask if they can ask 2 questions.

That's always an interesting situation since they just did what they asked you if the could.

Perhaps they meant "may" but then they still went ahead and did it.

My usual response to either is "you just did".


Some folks will ask "do you have the time?" - my response "for what?".

If they ask "do you know the time?" - my response "yes".

My wife just rolls her eyes.
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OP | Post 54 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 14:34
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On August 15, 2015 at 13:43, fcwilt said...
Some folks will ask "do you have the time?" - my response "for what?".

If they ask "do you know the time?" - my response "yes".

Teenage smartassery at its most irritating. Personally, I've given up most of that, but yeah, I remember being thirteen.

My wife just rolls her eyes.

You're lucky you don't get accused of worse in this thread!

Meanwhile, wait for the next time you call something the wrong thing and end up losing a sale, wasting time explaining three times, or whatever; because it will happen.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 55 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 14:42
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On August 15, 2015 at 14:34, Ernie Gilman said...
Teenage smartassery at its most irritating. Personally, I've given up most of that, but yeah, I remember being thirteen.

You're lucky you don't get accused of worse in this thread!

Meanwhile, wait for the next time you call something the wrong thing and end up losing a sale, wasting time explaining three times, or whatever; because it will happen.

I'll bet you lose more sales from people rolling their eyes and/or falling asleep during your hours long dissertation
Post 56 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 14:45
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On August 14, 2015 at 21:47, Mario said...
Going back to the second or third post about using a level for plumb lines.
Level is both a flat horizontal plane and a name of a tool.

Sort of like hammer is used to drive nails, but because it also had the claw, the hammer can be used to pull nails out, much like pry-bar.

English is a weird language: things like "park in driveway and drive on underground highway", or setting "OFF the alarm".

English is my second language here as well, me and Mario come from the same place ;) . When I came to US ( twenty something years ago ), i was trying to learn English by watching American movies with the subtitles on, I quickly learned that two most common sentences used in movies were " I love You " and " F....You " . When out on a date it worked just fine, but trying to get a job was a completely different story.... .
For a very long time I had major problems with proper pronunciation, a lot of words sounded alike. I will never forget my first service call when client had an issue with a relatively inexpensive receiver that kept shutting down and going to " protect mode ", upon my arrival I have learned that he had a pair of exotic and very low IMPEDANCE speakers , so I have connected the dots and quickly replied to the client ( with a heavy Polish accent ) : " You have an IMPOTENCE problem " ...
Post 57 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 15:02
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My Russian GF, although she does have pretty good command of English, doesn't understand many idioms and colloquialisms. I told her the other day that some guy I knew kicked the bucket. She looked matter of fact at me and asked "why he kick this bucket?"

And she calls a knee a K-nee (same with knife). I keep trying to tell her the k is silent.

When she wants me to turn on a light, she asks me "Can you make it more light" or when she is hot "Can you make it more cold".
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Post 58 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 16:49
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On August 15, 2015 at 14:34, Ernie Gilman said...
Teenage smartassery at its most irritating. Personally, I've given up most of that, but yeah, I remember being thirteen.

You're lucky you don't get accused of worse in this thread!

Meanwhile, wait for the next time you call something the wrong thing and end up losing a sale, wasting time explaining three times, or whatever; because it will happen.

My friends know by now that they should formulate their questions carefully as I am going to answer the questions asked.

I certainly don't deal with customers, strangers, etc that way.
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 59 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 19:37
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On August 15, 2015 at 03:45, Ernie Gilman said...
Exactly.

See, highfigh? You don't have to quote the whole post to comment on it.

I can't give you a good answer, or maybe any, without the context for your lame comment.

You can be a real nobk. (remember, the k is silent)
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 60 made on Saturday August 15, 2015 at 19:43
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On August 15, 2015 at 15:02, FP Crazy said...
My Russian GF, although she does have pretty good command of English, doesn't understand many idioms and colloquialisms. I told her the other day that some guy I knew kicked the bucket. She looked matter of fact at me and asked "why he kick this bucket?"

And she calls a knee a K-nee (same with knife). I keep trying to tell her the k is silent.

When she wants me to turn on a light, she asks me "Can you make it more light" or when she is hot "Can you make it more cold".

Talk to an ethnic German about getting their hair cut and they'll refer to "getting them cut" as a group. Hard g at the end of words, different syntax and phrasing- they all makes their way into the languages when people have to learn a new one and many languages don't use any silent letters.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
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