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Soooooooo is Heos controllable yet?
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Post 31 made on Tuesday March 17, 2015 at 16:25
Dean Roddey
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There's no need for you to index anything in that scenario. It's for integration into automation systems. The automation system will manage the playlist and browsing metadata. The device is purely a passive player in that case. It should just accept a request to add a file to its list, and play those songs in the list, and the other commands that the media related UPnP interfaces support (pause, play, clear the playlist, etc...)
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Post 32 made on Tuesday March 17, 2015 at 18:03
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Yes - sorry, I was thinking of it in terms of the HEOS app and our ecosystem in general. If we were to do it, we would take over the indexing to start.
Post 33 made on Tuesday March 17, 2015 at 18:14
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Well, there's no reason you couldn't provide a passive mode for automation system integration, without having to do your own directory scanning slash metadata loading scheme. The existence of support for accepting a file path would have to be there one way or another, so it could be done in the short term to accommodate automation systems, and leave the bigger issue until such time as it becomes apparent it's required. You wouldn't have to undo anything later if/when you decided to do the other work. And, that way, you'll think about up front the requirements of automation systems as separate from your own app's needs and insure that you support both modes. Many folks using an automation system would never use your app, since the automation system will provide that functionality.
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Post 34 made on Tuesday March 17, 2015 at 18:46
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I don't disagree with with you, and simple network shares are a big ask from both the custom and retail channels - so in my mind we need to support both. Either way, DLNA/UPNP functionality is almost ubiquitous with NAS drives, upper end routers and PCs and they are all supported via HEOS and our 3rd party control protocol today. I've got my iTunes library on a 2TB DLNA NAS and have no issues surfing it via my 3rd party control system.

Thanks,

Paul
Post 35 made on Tuesday March 17, 2015 at 23:45
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BTW, just to make it clear, the 'play this file' is also UPnP. It's part of the AVTransport service, which I assume you are already supporting. Presumably now you just reject the request if it's made. But it's already part of the UPnP interfaces you are likely implementing, so there wouldn't need to be any big change in terms of the interface itself. No need to support any new services or anything like that.

So just adding the simple ability to ask the box to add this file to the playlist, and to just play that list in the normal manner, that's all that's needed for non-DLNA integration really. In our case, we'd never even have a list, we just feed the device one file at a time as the previous stops we feed it the next one, because we manage the browsing and playlist within our automation system, where we can control how it works and insure all players and all media repositories work the same internally. Being able to treat the device like a passive player is what allows us to do that. That's very important to us.
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Post 36 made on Thursday April 16, 2015 at 17:12
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Exciting news for you Crestron guys - as of today, Crestron's HEOS module is available for download.

Would love to hear any feedback from those who try it out.

[Link: applicationmarket.crestron.com]
http://applicationmarket.crestron.co..._v1_0_Help.pdf

Thanks,

Paul Belanger
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Post 37 made on Thursday April 16, 2015 at 17:57
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All I know is there are issues with the RTI driver/heos combo. Don't know if it's a driver issue or a heos issue, but you WILL lose customers over it.

Try it at your house for a LONG time, not just a few days like I did.
Post 38 made on Thursday April 16, 2015 at 18:08
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Sorry to hear about your issues (your advice is good, thoroughly testing a new system or driver at home is for sure best practice before implementing it with a customer) - please make sure you are reporting/have reported any issues to RTI or on their dealer forum.

Thanks,

Paul Belanger
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Post 39 made on Wednesday April 22, 2015 at 15:57
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Any update on the C4 drivers D+M are creating in house? Would love to start selling this instead of Sonos!
Post 40 made on Wednesday April 22, 2015 at 17:40
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Any place to report bugs? I will dump them here for now.

My Heos system is 1 Link and 1 HEOS:3

Going off of memory here so a little fuzzy.

1. Firmware I have done 2 firmware updates total and both times it tells me the update failed. But it didnt fail, I go into settings and check for update and it tells me im up to date.

2. Since you cant turn a HEOS:3 off I pause my daughters 3 on a Pandora lullaby station. The next night I unpause it, a error pops up stating that its unable to play the station, but it does indeed play the station.

It seems there are more of those types of polish things but cant remember any specifics.

Nuvo has a windows utility to handle the network shares.
Post 41 made on Wednesday September 30, 2015 at 05:37
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Dear All,

Do anybody still have Denon HEOS modules for Crestron?
At this moment drivers are not available on applicationmarket.crestron.com.

Thank you in advance!
Post 42 made on Wednesday September 30, 2015 at 17:44
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It was pretty weak. We held off using it until it was upgraded.
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Post 43 made on Monday November 2, 2015 at 19:48
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Denon, depending on what the Sonos API has to offer your time to capitalize is running out!

Due to the Sirius/XM streaming change you are ripe for picking up tons of LMS swap outs. BUT, the integration with RTI is only just so so and your reliance on DLNA is holding many of us back from offering your solutions.

I have a LINK in my own system that replaced an LMS setup. LMS is a superior experience within RTI. I would assume that would be true of all 3rd party control.

We are begging you guys to provide us with a solution. So far it looks like the solution you are providing us, is to kick Sonos into gear and publish an API.
Post 44 made on Tuesday November 3, 2015 at 10:42
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And now you have DTS racing to enter the same market. The Paradigm stuff looks interesting with a high quality amp in their version.
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Post 45 made on Thursday November 5, 2015 at 10:35
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On November 2, 2015 at 19:48, oprahthehutt. said...
Denon, depending on what the Sonos API has to offer your time to capitalize is running out!

Due to the Sirius/XM streaming change you are ripe for picking up tons of LMS swap outs. BUT, the integration with RTI is only just so so and your reliance on DLNA is holding many of us back from offering your solutions.

I have a LINK in my own system that replaced an LMS setup. LMS is a superior experience within RTI. I would assume that would be true of all 3rd party control.

We are begging you guys to provide us with a solution. So far it looks like the solution you are providing us, is to kick Sonos into gear and publish an API.

+1
You (Denon) had a while to get this right..
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