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CAT5 Component Video Extender with Serial?
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Topic: | CAT5 Component Video Extender with Serial? This thread has 11 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Monday February 17, 2014 at 13:28 |
tgrugett Select Member |
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Does anyone have experience with such a beast besides Extron?
If so, do you mind sharing the make/model and your opinions?
Thanks!
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Post 2 made on Monday February 17, 2014 at 17:21 |
ichbinbose Select Member |
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Sorry originally thought hdmi Never mind
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Post 3 made on Monday February 17, 2014 at 17:26 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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What do you mean by "with serial"?
You can take a CAT5 and solder DB9s on each end. Voila -- that part is done.
Is there some reason that you require the Serial to be built into the same chassis as the Component to CAT converter? What's more likely for a company to think it can make money by selling, a component to CAT converter or a component to CAT converter that's also got, basically, an RJ45 on one side and a DB9 on the other, just to pass RS232 through it? The second is much less likely to be in demand, so might never have been made.
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OP | Post 4 made on Monday February 17, 2014 at 18:43 |
tgrugett Select Member |
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I have an existing large project that uses Extron extenders that deliver Component or RGBHV and serial over a single CAT5. They are VERY expensive and we have been having power supply failures (also VERY expensive) that are killing the send units. I do have a second CAT5 at many locations but not all. I want to explore an alternative to reduce expenditures, satisfy the client and possibly improve reliability. I would like to replace all of the power supplies but at $140 per 12V 1A factory models... it adds up!
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Post 5 made on Monday February 17, 2014 at 20:03 |
SysIntegration Advanced Member |
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I guess maybe if you tried to share a ground wire, you could use a component balun and splice the 232 onto the extra wires. Biggest issue is you aren't going to find a device that likely does that over a single cat 5, unless they are multiplexing the signal somehow, and then I can't wrap my head around why the time/money would be wasted on the R&D when you could use those extra two pins (not being used for component) for something solid.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday February 18, 2014 at 01:21 |
MikeZTC Senior Member |
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So, if a well designed, very expensive power supply is failing, what leads you to believe that a less expensive, very possibly more poorly designed power supply is going to survive?
Extron MTP gear is rock solid... You've got a power issue.
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Post 7 made on Tuesday February 18, 2014 at 01:25 |
MikeZTC Senior Member |
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On February 17, 2014 at 17:26, Ernie Gilman said...
What do you mean by "with serial"?
You can take a CAT5 and solder DB9s on each end. Voila -- that part is done.
Is there some reason that you require the Serial to be built into the same chassis as the Component to CAT converter? What's more likely for a company to think it can make money by selling, a component to CAT converter or a component to CAT converter that's also got, basically, an RJ45 on one side and a DB9 on the other, just to pass RS232 through it? The second is much less likely to be in demand, so might never have been made. Or, you know, you could balance and pre-emphasize the unbalanced low voltage output of a UART signal using active circuitry so the message actually reaches the receiver...
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Post 8 made on Tuesday February 18, 2014 at 09:42 |
Dawn Gordon Luks Founding Member |
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Post 9 made on Tuesday February 18, 2014 at 10:09 |
kgossen Super Member |
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On February 18, 2014 at 09:42, Dawn Gordon Luks said...
Transformative Engineering has HDMI extenders with serial. http://www.transformativeengineering.com/Thread title: Cat5 Component Video Extender with Serial?
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OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday February 19, 2014 at 14:27 |
tgrugett Select Member |
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On February 18, 2014 at 01:21, MikeZTC said...
So, if a well designed, very expensive power supply is failing, what leads you to believe that a less expensive, very possibly more poorly designed power supply is going to survive?
Extron MTP gear is rock solid... You've got a power issue. I hear you. I am just looking for potential alternatives. I have been seeing numerous Extron power supply issues on several jobs as they reach the 8+ year mark. I realize that 8+ years is a lifetime in the world of electronics but if these power supplies are taking down the modules at $500 a pop my question has to be... are these REALLY well designed power supplies? They are small transformers made in china like the rest of them so who is to say what they actual quality is. It is also a bit mystifying why component extenders should be more expensive than most HDMI extenders with the same feature set (the perspective being driven by my client).
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Post 11 made on Wednesday February 19, 2014 at 14:33 |
MikeZTC Senior Member |
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On February 19, 2014 at 14:27, tgrugett said...
It is also a bit mystifying why component extenders should be more expensive than most HDMI extenders with the same feature set (the perspective being driven by my client). Well, there isn't this magical little company called Valens who has basically done all of the R&D work for you, as is the case with HDBaseT extender products... Analog high rez video over twisted pair is a fairly complicated process to do correctly. These are a bit more involved than your cheap-o muxlab CCTV baluns. If you look at the big three (Extron, Autopatch (AMX), Crestron) you'll find that the Extron MTP is the least expensive of them all...
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Post 12 made on Wednesday February 19, 2014 at 15:42 |
AAC_Anthony Audio Authority Corp. |
Joined: Posts: | September 2010 167 |
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@tgrugett May be worth taking a look here [Link: audioauthority.com]If you see something that may work please feel free to reach out to me directly. All the best AAC_Anthony
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