I poseted this over in the RTI section but feel that it should be addressed to everyone


This is a major organized crime operation [Link: audiophileliquidator.net]


I traced some of the numbers and the following companys below are all the same operation



Domain name: audiophileliquidator.net

Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O audiophileliquidator.net
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ([email protected])
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O audiophileliquidator.net
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ()

Fax:
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O audiophileliquidator.net
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Creation date: 16 Jan 2007 23:54:42
Expiration date: 16 Jan 2009 23:54:42

Wait wait wait this gets way way worse guys look at this



There is more, the same address is attached to the following businesses!!!!
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Company:
Address:
City:
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PharmaExpressrx
PMB 368 14150 NE 20th St - F2
Bellevue
wa

Telephone:
Fax:
Email:
Website:

4256960234

[ Private ]



And if that is not enough

This as well

Ph: 4252740657
Fax: 4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O cashadvanceservice.net
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

and this

Whois Servicio de Protección de Privacidad, Inc
Agent Whois ( [email protected] )
+1,4252740657
Fax: +1,4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 St NE 20o - F1
C / O voluntariado-brasil. com
Bellevue, WA 98007
EE.UU.

Icanahost UNLIMITED DOMAIN RESELLER ACCOUNT FRAUD THEY SUSPEND YOUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT WARNING EVEN WHEN YOU PAY VIA - PAYPAL ripoff Bellevue Washington
*UPDATE *UPDATE ..ICANAHOST.COM RIPOFF


ICANAHOST
Phone: 425-2740657
Fax: 425-6960234

PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1 C/O ICANAHOST.COM
Bellevue, Washington, 98007
U.S.A.

servcharge.com/ - pvcharge.com/ - acctfee.net/ toke $39.95 $49.95 $49.95 without my notice or confirmation Bellevue, Washington
Thank You

servcharge.com/ - pvcharge.com/ - acctfee.net/
Phone: 425-2740657
Fax: 425-6960234

PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
Bellevue, Washington, 98007
U.S.A.

There is also a Porn site which I wont list here attached to all of this

Those sites help legitimize the shell game i got going.

Not that I like that site, but I did have a friend order a few grand of gear from them with no trouble. Whats the problem?

Yeah, would you mind telling us what the problem is? Okay, it's organized crime, that's bad. Does that mean they are going to try to sell me something? Attack Mr. Stanley? How much do they charge for that? (Just kidding, Mr. Stanley.)

I mean, what do they do that is an area of life where I might run across them? Install? Sell equipment? Sell tires? Encyclopedias?

It's nice of you to warn us about problem companies, but it would be nice to have some idea what they do* before I run into them!



*or what they say they will do before ripping you off

Well if you look closer you will see that they are selling several protected lines at prices that are way to low

[Link: audiophileliquidator.net]

[Link: audiophileliquidator.net]

and so forth

What kind of porn? Just curious...

:-)

Now How do I know you are over 18 ?

You don't. :-) I was just wondering if I was in any of the features....

[Link: google.com]

Whats a protected line these days?

I can't think of one line I can't get if I really wanted it.
Its a buyers market

The point is this

They are advertising products that were never supposed to me marketed on line, they are being sold at suspiciously low prices, the very same company shares and address with numerous other businesses some of which are been prosecuted or are under investigation for fraud



All of these businesses and more are at the same exact address with the same exact phone numbers

C/O audiophileliquidator.net

PharmaExpressrx

C/O cashadvanceservice.net

C / O voluntariado-brasil. Com

C/O ICANAHOST.COM


PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
Bellevue, Washington, 98007
U.S.A.

Wow movie business must be real slow if you are hangin out here. har, har,,


Jill Kelly


Here a couple of reports on two of the sites


[Link: ripoffreport.com]
[Link: ripoffreport.com]

PLEASE pay attention to this!!!!!! Eveyone..... i just got nailed by this on a job i just priced out. gave her a price, and after she told me she found two products that i sell that are supposed to be VERY INTERNET PROTECTED, was on the internet for almost cost... we are doing this to help everyone....

I think this is simply a reincarnation of the iwhore that AVAD stopped selling to a long time ago.

[Link: garrett-smarthome.com]

It sucks that they exist and in these tough times they are going to show up on the radar screens of increasingly price conscious clients. I just dealt with Amazon having a Blu-ray for $45.00 less than I could buy it at AVAD for. The advice of "system pricing" won't hold here as its an existing client looking for the latest thing in his theater.

With RTI though, I've run into the previous guy when he did have a few unauthorized pieces for sale and my response was... "who's going to program it for you? I certainly won't... the only way my company will support your control system is if we supply and program it".

I know its been said thousands of times here but those scouring "audiophile liquidator" are not our clients.

I have been look through the data a bit more and it apears that
Whois Protector

PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Is the legitimate owner of this address, and they are merely the insulating front for hundreds of registered sites that want to remain anonymous,

Even though Whois as far as I know is a legitimate part of the web industry, there are scores of complaints and investigations in the works against most all of the companys using this service. Notwithstanding www.audiophileliquidator.net claims to be as the name implies a liquidator, however they are advertising dozens of products that have not even made it to market yet. They have advertised with prices shown for:

Atlantic Technology

B&K

Boston Acoustics

Elan Accessories

Elan Speakers

Elan

Infinity

Klipsch Reference

Klipsch

NAD

PSB

RBH

Sonance Architectural Access.

Sonance Architectural Speakers

Sonance Visual Performance

Sonance

Speakercraft

RTI

Yamaha

Earthquake sound

Triad

Sunfire

Velodyne

Polk

Tanoy

Snell

NHT

Denon

Parasound

Onkyo

Energy

Monitor Audio

Canton

And on and on