Dave, any one who has a basic knowledge about programming and can read English can decipher XML to the degree necessary to understand the makeup of an xcf. The Pronto team never told me, nor I suspect anyone else, the makeup of an xcf file, and I built a full parser for an xcf.

The only reason I would like to see them sell the product line is to provide employment for the Pronto team. I would really like them to put together all the IP and put it into the Public domain so the Pronto can become an Open source software system. If that happened I bet there are some Asian manufacturers that might pick up the hardware or make a compatible piece of hardware (an iPad with buttons). People on this forum would handle the code base. Think XBMC.

There is a startup called iRule whose roadmap is a sophisticated GUI based editor (~$50) that is at this moment in time like PEP-0.1. It builds an app for the iPad that you can then load into the iPad. Some interesting facts.

iRule runs in the Google cloud, nothing on your machine.
Backups are done in the cloud by the cloud
Possible issue is a major Google failure
No software distribution issues
Privacy - well that is a trust issue as it always is
Any machine/OS that runs a decent browser works

iPad app is approved by apple. You buy the iRule app at the iTunes store, cost $0.0. No Jail-breaking required. iRule builds the equivalent of an xcf and downloads it to the iPad/iRule app when you sync your iPad to iRule. One button touch.

They are looking at writing an xcf converter for at least the graphics portion. Would give a Pronto owner a 50% leg up on a conversion, maybe more.

The iPad handles only IP/Wifi and iRule requires the use of gateways for such things as IR and serial communications. Sound familiar?. IP at this time is one way only, and I think the same is true of serial communications.

They, iRule, have an extensive IR library. They have a moderate IP and serial Comm Library. They support the Global Cache family as their "Official" Gateway. This includes the iTach which is very nice.

Their support staff is getting very high marks on the forums.

One of the principals of the company is always active on the forum answering questions, providing support and accepting ideas for implementation.

I am working with them in a consulting role (They know I will not discuiss any Pronto information that is not in the public domain). I believe they may also be talking to Lyndel.

I am starting to convert my Theater system to the iPad using iRule just to see what it takes and be able to offer good advice. I am doing it manually, no translation of the xcf which they agree with me is fairly reasonable, not simple, not difficult, but reasonable.

I like the company since they are dedicated to the concept of the iPad as a home controller.

I am also looking at the native iPad with Cocoa framework to directly implement code on the iPad but that is a whole other endeavor for next years timeframe.

Right now I have a 9800 that completely controls my Home theater just the way I want, and 9600/9400 in all rooms of the house for TV, and Home automation control.

The IPad is a mountain that is there and I do like to climb.

Dave, any one who has a basic knowledge about programming and can read English can decipher XML to the degree necessary to understand the makeup of an xcf. The Pronto team never told me, nor I suspect anyone else, the makeup of an xcf file, and I built a full parser for an xcf.

The only reason I would like to see them sell the product line is to provide employment for the Pronto team. I would really like them to put together all the IP and put it into the Public domain so the Pronto can become an Open source software system. If that happened I bet there are some Asian manufacturers that might pick up the hardware or make a compatible piece of hardware (an iPad with buttons). People on this forum would handle the code base. Think XBMC.

There is a startup called iRule whose roadmap is a sophisticated GUI based editor (~$50) that is at this moment in time like PEP-0.1. It builds an app for the iPad that you can then load into the iPad. Some interesting facts.

iRule runs in the Google cloud, nothing on your machine.
Backups are done in the cloud by the cloud
Possible issue is a major Google failure
No software distribution issues
Privacy - well that is a trust issue as it always is
Any machine/OS that runs a decent browser works

iPad app is approved by apple. You buy the iRule app at the iTunes store, cost $0.0. No Jail-breaking required. iRule builds the equivalent of an xcf and downloads it to the iPad/iRule app when you sync your iPad to iRule. One button touch.

They are looking at writing an xcf converter for at least the graphics portion. Would give a Pronto owner a 50% leg up on a conversion, maybe more.

The iPad handles only IP/Wifi and iRule requires the use of gateways for such things as IR and serial communications. Sound familiar?. IP at this time is one way only, and I think the same is true of serial communications.

They, iRule, have an extensive IR library. They have a moderate IP and serial Comm Library. They support the Global Cache family as their "Official" Gateway. This includes the iTach which is very nice.

Their support staff is getting very high marks on the forums.

One of the principals of the company is always active on the forum answering questions, providing support and accepting ideas for implementation.

I am working with them in a consulting role (They know I will not discuiss any Pronto information that is not in the public domain). I believe they may also be talking to Lyndel.

I am starting to convert my Theater system to the iPad using iRule just to see what it takes and be able to offer good advice. I am doing it manually, no translation of the xcf which they agree with me is fairly reasonable, not simple, not difficult, but reasonable.

I like the company since they are dedicated to the concept of the iPad as a home controller.

I am also looking at the native iPad with Cocoa framework to directly implement code on the iPad but that is a whole other endeavor for next years timeframe.

Right now I have a 9800 that completely controls my Home theater just the way I want, and 9600/9400 in all rooms of the house for TV, and Home automation control.

The IPad is a mountain that is there and I do like to climb.

Hi Remotequest.

If you don't want to code you can't offer good bi-directional remotes. My opinion..
Take Nevo, their good in drag and drop.

Command fusion is in my opinion the best programming environment i can image.
The way the system is build up is very very flexible. (did I say very flexible?)

Hopefully we can use the RFX9600 / 9400 in other control systems in the neir future to have the possibility to update our systems!

 I'm hoping for open-sourced software / firmware as well. If Philips is just going to shut the division down, it's the least they can do for their customers.

I am dilligently researching one to bring on for our clients but all that I have seen so far are very cryptic funky text editors. If you guys have seen a good GUI based model, please let me know!

Bitwise is probably the closest one but it is unfortunately a piece of junk compared to any of the GUI-based systems we are used to working with. Also I recently determined their management team is loaded with idiots.

The simulator can't communicate with extenders or accept incoming udp

Bitwise has limitations as well as it needs a fair bit of tiding up of the software, it is the best ive come across so far, but needs a lot work to make it Installer friendley. and im not sure they will have enough resources to do it quick enough.

Also they need to get it to work with android as well to be a market leader..

They need to be able to take Hex codes with out there converter tool, resize graphic s in there edit software and in a seperate package.

Its only one way at the moment and there is no way to link to a nother app say sonos. and still beable to controll volume mute etc.

As i said they have a good idea but needs alot of dev to get it to a polished product.

Hi Remotequest.

If you don't want to code you can't offer good bi-directional remote's. My opinion..
Take Nevo, their good in drag and drop.

Command fusion is in my opinion the best programming enviroment i can image.
The way the system is build up is very very flexible. (did I say very flexible?)

Hopefully we can use the RFX9600 / 9400 in other control systems in the neir future to have the possibility to update our systems!

Provided that the gesture based interfaces keep evolving, I am pretty sure we are bound to see an impressive evolution in the way the "traditional" device control works much sooner that we think - gestures and, optionally, visual feedback on your TV or even tactile feedback from the touch panel, will likely cover most of the "normal" remote control needs without the "traditional" hard buttons.

And let's not forget that it's not just the touch gestures - when you actually need to have something in the palm of your hand - XBOX Kinect already has moved from research/prototype to production resulting among other things in Microsoft Media Center control using air gestures.

It now might look clumsy - can you imagine a patriarch frantically waving his hands to skip forward an annoying commercial? - but in a couple of years we will likely have something much more sophisticated and the patriarch instead of going through the painfully mind-numbing process of learning the IR codes from the old remotes will only need to teach the new system how to read the facial expressions :)

I would prefer a nice directional microphone and good voice recognition in a noisy (movie) environment.