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Post 166 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 13:09
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Stamp,
my issue wasn't really with roaming more or a multi-room install where the PCM2 is remotely located. The 3x version makes since with wi-fi but I don't want to spec it until I've tested it. is anyone doing multiroom with Prodigy or are they just stepping their clients into alternative solutions like RTI or Creston?
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Post 167 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 13:19
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There was an MLX-2 thread here or at AVS a couple months ago where the end user was complaining about range. I am guessing the PLX-2 suffers the same issues? I havent had my hands on one so i cant comment. The only remote i have seen get what i consider to be GREAT range is the RTI T2-C. I used them with Crestron gateways on several projects and i could use them in any room of the clients apartment no matter where i located the gateway. I still ended up installing a gateway in each room with a remote assigned to its own local gateway just to play it safe.

My question about clients roaming is pure curiosity. I wonder how many are selling 1 remote per room and how many are trying to provide the client with 1 remote to control several rooms or the entire home with. I think the roaming single remote is a recipe for user frustration.
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Post 168 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 16:11
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The PTMC-3 is NOT wi-fi
Post 169 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 16:56
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On December 15, 2009 at 12:45, 39 Cent Stamp said...
But we all know what assuming can lead to :)
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Post 170 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 18:28
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The range problem for the Prodigy system has been addressed we are just still waiting for the hardware to be shipped. You will be using the P-RFEXP (wireless expander) to do this. You can have up to 10 in a system and it will allow better coverage.

Stamp, as for roaming. the PLX2 is so damn inexpensive, you might as well just add more. HOwever the PTX3 may present itself to some basic roaming features in more entry level systems since the Prodigy Audio keypad doesn't provide any feedback.

Check out this New Graphic template from GuiFX. The demo video shows an interesting interface for using the system.

[Link: vimeo.com]

Particularly, the easy way of just selecting a source and then have "ADD ROOMS" option from every source page so that you can easily turn a room on and have it on the same source without going to the home page. This would require a ton of page flips with an RTI system, but maybe easier done with Crestron or AMX, but I like the idea.
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Post 171 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 18:36
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I watched the video earlier. "Room Control" is always a struggle. I like what they are doing it there. I dont like how the rooms are presented after you choose an activity. I like rooms to be available from the source menu but i think more often then not you want to control only the room you are in and you dont want to have to CLOSE that rooms page every time. Obviously operation can be manipulated by the programer, im just commenting on the way it appears to operate in the video.

We have been doing the "add rooms" menu for quite a while. We have called it the "Send To" menu with the idea that you are sending the current source to the other rooms.
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Post 172 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 20:06
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Good point Stamp. I actually didn't like that either. IMO it should be Room Selection -> Source selection, then from with a source have a button that says "Add Rooms" (or whatever) that takes them to a page that says something like "Select Rooms/Zones to Play Current Source" then probably a "Finished Button"
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Post 173 made on Monday December 21, 2009 at 23:48
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Cory now that you've had some time to play with the prodigy stuff how do you like it? Like you i am not sold on PLX2 but you said it got approval from the wife. I have been really turned off on that style of remote but it has a great price point and the PMC2 seems like it can do a lot. It says the PMC2 can be controlled from the web or a PC. Have you looked at this at all. Is it a default setting? Thanks for any input.
Post 174 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 00:10
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On December 21, 2009 at 23:48, scottedge267 said...
Cory now that you've had some time to play with the prodigy stuff how do you like it? Like you i am not sold on PLX2 but you said it got approval from the wife. I have been really turned off on that style of remote but it has a great price point and the PMC2 seems like it can do a lot. It says the PMC2 can be controlled from the web or a PC. Have you looked at this at all. Is it a default setting? Thanks for any input.

So far, its been a bit boring b/c i ONLY have the PMC2 and PLX2, however my full demo kit is schedule for delivery tomorrow.

Just for comparison, we have an old MX850 that we use daily in my house, so the PLX2 wasn't the different to my wife. I gave her a T2C at the same time just to look at. She said that the T2C looks cooler, but it costs 4 times as much and does the same thing (actually less when compared to Prodigy).

I sold a system to a client that I'll be putting in late next month. For him the sale was easy the second I said iTouch control b/c he has an Apple TV that he loves and just carries his iTouch with him all over. He already has a Niles ZR4 da amp, so if I can get any feedback from that to the PLX2 and APP, he is going to be thrilled.

The 2nd big selling point for him was how cheap the PLX2 is. They will have a solid, reliable control system and if his kids break the remote he's only out $170 for a new one, opposed to $700 for a T2Cs.

Its not my favorite, but its not bad and it will definitely work. Compared to the MX900+MRF350 or the RTI T2B+RP1 combos, the Prodigy PLX2+PMC2 combo is an easy winner.
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Post 175 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 02:39
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On December 15, 2009 at 16:11, thecynic315 said...
The PTMC-3 is NOT wi-fi

PTX3 is the prodigy version correct? I want to make sure were talking about the same thing before i start assuming things again :).

I havent had time to think about this until today. I was walking around a huge house with a tpmc-3x today. We only have one on the project right now and the programmer has it controlling every zone in the house. It has been great for testing. The house is 3 stories, 10+ TV's 12+ sources 4 surround zones all crestron switching.

I can walk around with the TPMC3-X and control everything without a hiccup. We are leaving for the holidays with the system unfinished (holidays) but its OK because the client can use the 3X in any room he wants.

It would be awesome if the PTX3 could roam via wi-fi. I understand they have to dumb it down to seperate the 2 lines but why would they take away a communcation option? Crazy IMO.
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Post 176 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 09:37
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Just noticed and watched the Crestron quick course, Modifying a Prodigy Project in SystemBuilder. It’s worth a view for any Prodigy dealers.
Post 177 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 09:55
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How much control do you have on the layout of the PLX2. Can you map button to the top LCD? Can you change the text there? I also don't like how GUIDE INFO and a couple other buttons are also the red blue yellow buttons. Thanks cory for that info very helpful. Have a call into the Crestron rep in my area to get more info.
Post 178 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 11:27
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I don't even use the Prodigy "Composer". It is easier for me to use Simpl. I have yet to find a client that actually likes the Adagio/Prodigy composer functionality. They have all asked for us to make a "Real" program for them. Like everyone else......still waiting for the Prodigy amp, repeater, AM/FM/XM. We have sold quite a few PMC-2's with multiple PLX-2's though.
Post 179 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 12:09
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On December 22, 2009 at 11:27, Chris Myers said...
I don't even use the Prodigy "Composer". It is easier for me to use Simpl. I have yet to find a client that actually likes the Adagio/Prodigy composer functionality.

By this statement, do you mean that they don't like the way the Wizard organizes the UI layout? I'm assuming you are using System Builder to go through and customize it more like we would do with URC/RTI.


They have all asked for us to make a "Real" program for them. Like everyone else......still waiting for the Prodigy amp, repeater, AM/FM/XM. We have sold quite a few PMC-2's with multiple PLX-2's though.

How would a client know the difference unless you showed them? Just curious, I'm not thrilled with the composer UI either, but thats what System Builder is for. I don't like many of the templates that RTI/URC use, but many guys still use them as i'm sure will with the Composers.
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Post 180 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 13:47
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NO SYSTEMBUILDER period. I absolutely refuse to use it. We have a showroom where clients can come in and use a functional Crestron system......With our UI. After they use ours, They really don't want to go backwards.

****I was writing programs for Adagio systems before Composer was even availiable. What a pain in the a$$ those first few were.
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