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Best way to stop a long macro?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday January 27, 2010 at 17:19
thebland
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When I power down my system, it is about a 5 minute macro.

Sometimes, I'll start that macro to power the system off and we may be watching credits and decide we want to go back and watch another scene or something...and I am helpless to stop the macro before the projector powers down.

Can I add a button or command to simply halt it?

Thanks,

Jeff
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Post 2 made on Wednesday January 27, 2010 at 18:15
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Can you elaborate on why you have a 5 minute macro?
Post 3 made on Wednesday January 27, 2010 at 19:17
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Just a guess, but I'm thinking his projector take a few minutes to power down and cool off before it can be powered on again. Five minutes seems excessive, though.
Post 4 made on Wednesday January 27, 2010 at 19:35
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are you using an XP-8?  That's the only way you're going to do this.

There's a "cancel macro if pending" option you can throw in there in some sort of variable. 

It'll work, just have to think about it for a minute to give a better explanation.

edit -

in the XP-8 system macro - go to the System Macro drop down.  you can select "cancel system macro if pending" from there.

So you could have a Power Off system macro, then maybe a "Don't turn off yet!" button next to it.  The entire "Don't turn it off yet!" macro would be:  "Cancel pending system macro: Power Off"
Post 5 made on Thursday January 28, 2010 at 08:18
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IIRC, the default pages I've seen include a page that has something like "are you sure you want to shut down?" on it, with Yes and No. Maybe this remote should have that so they have the option to reconsider.

That said, the projectors I've worked with have two minute cool-down periods. I'm guessing that the programmer (did thebland program this?) didn't take the time to find out what the absolute minimum cool-down period was.

To find out, turn off the projector. Use a timer, and two minutes later try to power it back on. Then again, ten seconds after that, then ten seconds later, etc. Once you've verified a minimum that way, check it again without those earlier button pushes just to be sure.

In some systems, I want the projector to always be on one particular input when I power it up, so I set it to that on shutdown, then turn the projector off. These should be the first two commands of the shutdown macro.
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OP | Post 6 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 07:14
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On January 28, 2010 at 08:18, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
IIRC, the default pages I've seen include a page that has something like "are you sure you want to shut down?" on it, with Yes and No. Maybe this remote should have that so they have the option to reconsider.

That said, the projectors I've worked with have two minute cool-down periods. I'm guessing that the programmer (did thebland program this?) didn't take the time to find out what the absolute minimum cool-down period was.

To find out, turn off the projector. Use a timer, and two minutes later try to power it back on. Then again, ten seconds after that, then ten seconds later, etc. Once you've verified a minimum that way, check it again without those earlier button pushes just to be sure.

In some systems, I want the projector to always be on one particular input when I power it up, so I set it to that on shutdown, then turn the projector off. These should be the first two commands of the shutdown macro.

Hi,

I am the programmer. This is for my own theater.

I use an RP-6.

I have a long shut down for a few reasons (6-7 minutes).

1. It takes 30 seconds to bring up the lights (slowly)
2. Slow lowering of volume (1 minute)
2. Allow the credits to partially roll
3. Source and amplifiers shut down
4. Projector shut down
5. Leave lights on in theater for a couple minutes after all is shut down to clean up, folks light to see their way out, etc.

Sometimes after starting this long macro, I want to disable it and continue to watch more credits or put in another disc. After the macro ends there is a delay before the projector can be restarted. So a way to stop the macro dead in its tracks

Thanks!

(I do have a screen that asks me if I really want to shut down (prior to shutting down).

Last edited by thebland on January 29, 2010 08:55.
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Post 7 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 10:24
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Put a RK1 outside of your theater. And use that to do all the above. On the remote program a EXIT button that ramps up the lights, then when you walk out, press the OFF button on the RK1 to do your long macro. This way you are already finished watching what you want, the system can shut off while you are not there.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 10:30
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On January 29, 2010 at 10:24, AZ_Pro_Installer said...
Put a RK1 outside of your theater. And use that to do all the above. On the remote program a EXIT button that ramps up the lights, then when you walk out, press the OFF button on the RK1 to do your long macro. This way you are already finished watching what you want, the system can shut off while you are not there.

That is a doable idea. I'm going to think on that.

But, there is simply no way to stop a macro once it has started?

Thanks,
Jeff
Post 9 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 13:27
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Outside of an XP8 no. As with what jimstolz76 said, the XP8 the Macro has to be pending, not running.
Post 10 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 17:31
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On January 29, 2010 at 13:27, AZ_Pro_Installer said...
Outside of an XP8 no. As with what jimstolz76 said, the XP8 the Macro has to be pending, not running.

I must have misunderstood.  In what scenario would a macro be "pending"?  Only if it's set to run in xx seconds/minutes?

What if he broke up his long macro into a 'beginning' and 'end'
When he starts the long macro, have the 'beginning' macro issue the 'end' macro in 5 minutes (or whatever time is applicable).

That way if you hit a button to STOP the long macro, what it will do is to cancel the pending 'end' macro and the 'beginning' macro would be finished anyway.

Still need an XP-8, and you'd have to figure out how you can break up the macro into two sections.  Something like lighting may be easy depending on what system you're using - you could issue the long light fade out in the lighting system itself, then if you cancel the pending macro your new light commands will override it.

Last edited by jimstolz76 on January 29, 2010 17:39.
Post 11 made on Friday January 29, 2010 at 23:39
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What are you using for lights?? Maybe if its capable, bring them up to set level??

Can you lower the volume to a set level and leave it low??

and install a RK-1/4 by the door for a Few selections...Room On, Clean Up, movie over, Room off

Room on would power it all up just like your remote does

Clean up would be a lights on full and no equipment on

Movie over would be you current 5 min macro

Room off would be a quick version of your 5 min macro..Just power it all off and fade the lights over 15-20 seconds

If you hade a graphic eye you could set the timer in there to do all the fading and keep it off of the Macro
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Post 12 made on Saturday January 30, 2010 at 16:02
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How did you get the software?
Post 13 made on Saturday January 30, 2010 at 16:36
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From my programming point of view, a macro is meant to be started, excuted and stopped. Not paused or cancelled. If you seriously want to stop the "system off" macro after you've started it, because you've changed your mind, build in several "are you sure" followed by some "are you really really sure" screens.

Without thinking too much about it...I would think there may be a way to do it with some timers and flags with an RP6. Let me think about that....

On a side note. Man...your guy's standards have really dropped....helping out a non-dealer with his dealer only software :)

If I remember right, Jeff's theater was written up in a mag somewhere and included quite a few comments on his "self programmed RTI system". Had I laugh when I read that :)

Last edited by tabascojunkie on January 31, 2010 10:45.
Post 14 made on Saturday January 30, 2010 at 21:48
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Wait... you're and End User, not a CI?


If that's the case, then I have less off problem with telling you that your macro is STUPID!

Your macro ASSumes that when you press "Power Off" that you are getting up and leaving the room every time... which you obviously are not.

I'm going to steal a line from someone else around here...







HIRE A PRO!
Post 15 made on Sunday January 31, 2010 at 20:23
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RTI should start changing the username and password a few times a year. Its not so much that this one guy has dealer only software, but how many friends has he turned on to RTI? How many times has he given the username and password out to others.
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