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sony 3100 - how to program video inputs for TV?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 09:44
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i just got the 3100 and i like it quite a bit. i also have a sony 34hs420 tv and the default TV settings works great. one feature that i like is the 4 video inputs at the bottom of the touchscreen. you directly go to them rather than pushing the "video/tv" key several times to get to whatever input.

is it possible to change the 4 inputs to other ones for direct access? the tv has 7 inputs and would like to set it for?
video 1, video 5, video 6 and video 7

my remote doesn't have direct video input keys so i have no clue how i can do this.
Post 2 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 11:04
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For Video 1 through Video 6, the procedure is simple. Video 7 will be explained later.
1. On page 19 of the manual, code 4106 is explained. Load this code to any unused component select button.
2. Use the “Alias” function on page 74 to move the the desired functions, in this case V-5 and V-6 (you don’t have to move V-1 because it is already there) to the label keys on your TV screen.
3. You can now change the text on the label keys to reflect the new input.

For Video 7, it is a little more complicated, since the Video 7 function on the Code 4106 screen does not work. There are two simple solutions, and one a little more complicated.

First, the simple solution.
1. On the TV screen, you already have aliased video 6. Use the alias function to move the tv/tuner command (on the second row of label buttons on the TV screen) next to video 6, or near it if you desire. Now, all you have to do is press Video 6 and then the tv/tuner button to get to video 7. A little extra work, but the simplest solution.

Second, a little more complicated.
1. If you have a learning remote, teach the Video 6 command and the tv/tuner command to the learning remote.
2. Then, use the procedure on page 53, Learning up to 4 signals to one key, to teach the V-6 and tv/input commands to a key of your choice.
3. If you used a label key, you can now change the text to reflect the new input.

There is a third, more complicated solution, but it involves the purchase of a OneForAll/Radio Shack remote, a JP1 cable, and extensive programming, so I won’t go into that now. Either of the above 2 procedures should work very well for you.
Post 3 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 11:25
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there may not be a need to involve another remote. since the solutions are all baseing on the fact that you want to press one key and it will fire off 2 different codes (1st to change to vid 6 2nd is the tv/tuner) the 3100 supports the use of key macros. you can just assign your 'vid 7' key to fire off the vid 6 and tv/tuner key. read up on key macros. its super! i may have misunderstood though...
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 11:28
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i saw the 4106 listing and i couldn't figure it out... thanks for the page ref. to "alias". i'll check it out tonight.

as for vid 7, i was thinking of setting up one of those macros.
2 steps:
goto video 6
video/tv

now, this is all new to me, so i'm not even sure that would work, but i can try it.

i do have a one-for-all learning remote somewhere (cinema 7?). if the macro doesn't work very well, i'll investigate how to do something w/ that.

in any case, it sounds like the tv itself, will first switch to video 6, and then to video 7 - a 2 step process which isn't as elegant, but certainly better than the 7 step process i'm going thru right now.

i do know that i can remove unused video inputs... i wonder if that will affect these commands? for example, is video 4 always video 4? or is it the 4th available video input?
Post 5 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 14:28
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what i was trying to say was that the 3100 has a feature calls 'key macros' since the standard sony discrete input ends with vid6 and you specifically want vid7 on one key press, you can use this 'key macros' feature. basically, you can assign up to 4 keys on the remote to one key. so, for example, i can program an LCD i labeled 'NBC' to fire '0', '0', '4' or channel 4 for my local NBC station. but, you would subsitue the number keys with 'vid6' then 'tv/tuner' and label your lcd to 'vid7'. this way, you can just press 'vid7' and it will chain 'vid6' and 'tv/tuner' together in that order.

i hope this is clear.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 14:31
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yes, that's clear. you had posted while i was writing my post and it's basically saying the same thing regarding the macros.
Post 7 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 15:03
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On 07/28/04 11:28, young said...
i do know that i can remove unused video inputs...
i wonder if that will affect these commands?
for example, is video 4 always video 4? or is
it the 4th available video input?

Video 4 is not always Video 4 if you want to learn something else on that key. Any key on the 3100 except the more, other, timer, and light keys can be learned on, including the hard keys. So you can teach the tv input on that key.

But slowpoke made a good catch, and you can use the key macro feature, and you can do that on the video 4 key, or any other key of your choosing.

These threads will answer your questions, and others which may arise.

RM-AV3000/3100 NEWCOMER’S PACKAGE-WELCOME-CHECK THESE OUT (IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY DONE SO) AND SAVE YOURSELF SOME PROBLEMS

AVOID SYSTEM CONTROL PROBLEMS

HOW TO LABEL, CHANGE OR HIDE BUTTONS

CHANGING BATTERIES (May not apply to RM-AV3100-time will tell)

AND IF YOU HAVE A SONY RECEIVER:
CHANGING YOUR RECEIVER AND REMOTE TO AV1 (or AV2) COMMAND MODE
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 22:20
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ok, i can't find the video 5, etc keys... where are they? when i press the TV mode key, i get 2 other sets of commands but they're not video 6, etc, hd1, etc.

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ok, i think i have it. i need to set the 4106 as something, like the VCR. and then alias that number as the video key.
Post 9 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 22:43
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You need to pick any unused component key and then assign the preset code 4106 to it. Then, the video 1-6 keys will appear (I don't have a 3100 yet but that is the way it is supposed to work), and these are the ones you alias to the tv screen.
OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday July 28, 2004 at 23:10
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success! :D

thank you guys for your help. i have set up the 4 bottom buttons as the video inputs that i want (1 as a key macro)

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one caveat. i had set video 2 as an alias to "video 4" but when i set the "video 4" to the key macro, it of course, made video2 as the key macro. so i had to redo that by using the 4106 code.


This message was edited by young on 07/28/04 23:34.
Post 11 made on Thursday July 29, 2004 at 00:19
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You have identified the main problem with using the alias function.

If you happen to change the original key in any way, the alias key will also change. This is why it is alays better, if you have a learning remote, or if the command is on the original remote, to teach the command you want to the host key, instead of using the alias function.

If you don't have a learning remote, and don't want to get one, then the alias function is the next best alternative.


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