Hi,

first post here. just found this site and have been reading for a while now. i have a OFA learning remote for discrete code programming and a sony 3100 remote. the first 3100 has the dreaded lock up when deleting vid 2 and vid 3. it would not unlock nor relearn those 2 buttons under 'amp' even after the battery trick. i eventually had to return it for a new one. the current 3100 hasn't lock up yet.

here are my questions:
1) on the 3100, the vid 1 button under AMP always picks up the most recently learned command! i.e., i would learn a new command for say... a button under TV, now, the vid 1 button under amp will perform that new learned command under TV! the only way around this is to re learn vid 1. this is very annoying.

2) i have a sony dvd player i think its a model 465? its less than year old. the remote defaults to sony components so i didn't program a dvd preset code. but, the discrete on (pressing power once) does not work. i try to use the OFA remote and programmed discrete on (code 113) but, the code does not work on the dvd player.

does any one know how discrete codes work in general? there are only so many variations on a 3 digit code. how does the dvd know this is 'mine 113' v.s. say my TV (which also accepts discrete codes)?

because of non discrete on/off on the dvd, i can't program "hit tv for watching tv and hit dvd for watching dvd" macros for the family. since the dvd power will toggle the on/off. i read you can hit 'play' as 'on' subsitute for dvd... but, i just want a cleaner solution.

also, does any know if its possible to have 2 component buttons of the same type? like 2 dvds or 2 tvs?

sorry for all the questions, but, i have 30 days to try it, i want i know what i can do with it and what faults i must live with...

thanks

Sorry about the lockup problem. I don’t remember hearing about that with the 3100, but I guess they are not all perfect.

1. This sounds like you might have been playing with the “alias” feature. I don’t have a 3100 yet so I can’t test out my theories, but if you did, then you should see page 75 and clear the key on the video 1 which is giving you the problem. Then, that key will revert to its normal state and you can either use it or teach something else to it.

2. Discrete codes are linked to the device code, so if you use a discrete code of XXX in the TV device, it will not be the same as XXX in the vcr device, and the XXX discrete code for a Sony won’t be the same as for a JVC. They are all unique, so there is no repetition.

Which OFA learning remote do you have, and what setup code are you using. Foir the most part, only setup codes starting with zero will let you use discrete codes. You have to teach the applicable setup code to the component key on the OFA remote, for example, for a Sony DVD, the code might be 0533, which would allow you to access the discrete codes. If you are using the advanced codes from this list [Link: hifi-remote.com] then 113 should turn it on if you have done all the other stuff right, and if your OFA remote accepts advanced codes. Not all do.

I’m going to quit talking about this subject now until you have a chance to check out what I have written so far, and then if you still have questions, come on back.

3. You can have as many component buttons for a particular component as you want. The first digit of the component code determines the component, so if you had 6 vcr’s, you could load the component code for each one to a different screen and they would all function independently.

Hi Ron,

thanks for your reply. the AMP vid 1 key is being referenced by a LCD label 'xbox' on the bottom row -- since that's where my xbox is plugged in. basically, I have learned 1 to 1 all the existing keys to the sqr buttons, then I use the alias feature on the bottom row of LCD where I can rename the button to something more intuitive. having said that, the vid 1 sqr button under AMP _always_ picks up the latest learned command. regardless which component/button is being taught. but, I will do a 'clear' and relearn to see if it goes away.

thanks for the explanation on the discrete codes. I think I got lucky in that my OFA cinema 7 remote was originally used for my old SAMSUNG TV. my new TV happens to be a SAMSUNG as well, and that's why the discrete code for the new TV works. my old DVD wasn't a Sony and that's why the '113' code doesn't work. I will reset the DVD component code to 0533 and retry again.

I don't understand your #3. since my amp isn't on the preset list at all, I don't have a code for it?

thanks for the quick reply!!

-slowpoke

You are lucky to have the Cinema 7. I have one also and it is one of the best discrete code remotes they ever made (arguably, in case robman or edmund sees this). You can do a lot with it. Did you know you can keymove to or learn on virtually any key, and you can make a macro on any key?

If there is no code for your amp, that means you will have to learn everything, right. Just use any amp code, just to get the basic amp screen. You can look around and pick the one that gives you the most useable key descriptions. Once you have the preset code assigned, teach everything to it, including stuff from your Cinema 7. You can also change the description of the component name.

Here are some links which may help you out:

RM-AV3000/3100 NEWCOMER’S PACKAGE-WELCOME-CHECK THESE OUT (IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY DONE SO) AND SAVE YOURSELF SOME PROBLEMS

AVOID SYSTEM CONTROL PROBLEMS

HOW TO LABEL, CHANGE OR HIDE BUTTONS

CHANGING BATTERIES (May not apply to RM-AV3100-time will tell)

AND IF YOU HAVE A SONY RECEIVER:
CHANGING YOUR RECEIVER AND REMOTE TO AV1 (or AV2) COMMAND MODE