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ProntoPro NG firmware update 3.3.4 and IR codes.
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Post 1 made on Monday July 19, 2004 at 21:43
Lowpro
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"On a short button press, some long IR codes where terminated to soon. Now every button press will result in sending out two IR frames minimally."

Anyone remember the TSU3000 firmware update that gave so many people problems. This is in regards to how the IR burst length changed after the firmware update leaving many people with equipment that would no longer respond to the remote. Well I was one of them at the time. Now I own a TSU7000 and the same thing has happened with this firmware update.

My Sony DVD changers learned IR codes once again are broke like they used to be with the TSU3000. I have to hold buttons down for 2 seconds for them to work. With the TSU3000 if I placed a .1 second delay in front of the learned IR codes they would excute without having to hold the buttons down for two seconds.

(This made them macros by the way which meant these IR codes would no longer repeat. Not good for some IR codes as you could imagine.)

I assume adding the .1 second delay with my TSU7000 .pcf will accomplish the same thing as it did for my TSU3000 when that firmware update botched things up. Unfortunately it was not a good work around overall as I started having problems with other IR codes not executing all the time and macros which once performed flawlessly, missing all over the place. I ended up reverting back to the older firmware and eventually trading up for the TSU7000.

Due to what I've found with this latest firmware update for my TSU7000, I have no choice but to revert back to the older firmware. This is just nuts. It is hard not to be frustrated with this. I have been hoping the issues with the remote freezing up when going into sleep mode would be addressed. This was the only major issue other than the full 32 megs not being available that I've had with the TSU7000. My remote may not freeze up anymore with this latest firmware update, but it is not worth the trade off of my IR codes not working right, even with the work around in place. I will just have to hope that my remote stops freezing up so much in sleep mode with the older firmware. Unlike the TSU3000 at the time, you can revert back to the older firmware for the TSU7000. The updater program for the older firmware will see you have a more up to date version of the firmware, but will let you install the older version anyway.

One other interesting observation with this firmware update I have found ...

With the older firmware my remote showed 14% free memory. After installing the new firmware (while retaining my .pcf) the remote showed only 3% free memory. I then downloaded my .pcf fresh into the remote just to see if that made a difference. Still only 3% free memory showing. After I reverted back to the older firmware the remote once again showed 14% free memory.

I have a feeling this latest firmware is not reporting the free memory left in the remote properly. That is the conclusion I came to anyway.

-Lowpro

This message was edited by Lowpro on 07/20/04 00:01.
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Post 2 made on Monday July 19, 2004 at 21:55
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As for myself, I had the previous version of the firmware with 75% of the memory available and after the latest firmware upgrade, my remote showed only 57% of memory available. During the upgrade and revert, I requested to keep my previous configuration file.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday July 20, 2004 at 15:15
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Yes interesting this - the memory loss has also been reported in the 3.3.4 announcement thread. I too have noticed quite a large decrease in my reported memory.
After having read the response by Lyndel above I reloaded the firmware and elected to remove my configuration (previously I had reqested to keep it). The firmware upgrade then loads the default config and then applies the upgrade. Memeory was at 74% after this. Then I uploaded my config and hey presto back down to 34% again (it was 65% before the upgrade :-)!!!
Post 4 made on Tuesday July 20, 2004 at 15:55
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On 07/19/04 21:43, Lowpro said...
"On a short button press, some long IR codes
where terminated to soon. Now every button press
will result in sending out two IR frames minimally."


Anyone remember the TSU3000 firmware update that
gave so many people problems. This is in regards
to how the IR burst length changed after the firmware
update leaving many people with equipment that
would no longer respond to the remote. Well I
was one of them at the time. Now I own a TSU7000
and the same thing has happened with this firmware
update.

I do not observe this problem. All of my codes, and I use many components, work fine.

I do have the memory problem. Perhaps when they "open" the other 16 MB giving us the full "32 MB" we will go back to where we were before the firmware upgrade.
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday July 20, 2004 at 16:16
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Good to hear your components were not affected. :-)

I am having the IR codes for my Sony DVD changers looked over to see why they now require a 2 second button press to work properly. Prior to this firmware update a very short tap was all that was required. If anything comes of it I will be sure to let everyone know.

-Lowpro
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Post 6 made on Tuesday July 20, 2004 at 20:30
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Lowpro,

I'm using the clean codes posted in my Sony DVD CCF on this site and had no problems with the latest firmware other than the "perceived" loss of memory that I'm currently attributing to a but in the free memory calculation.

Lyndel
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Post 7 made on Tuesday July 20, 2004 at 20:49
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Lowpro, I'm using the same changer as you. I only tested a couple buttons but they seem fine after the firmware. I'm using codeset 3 that I learned into the remote. Hope it gets straightened out for you. I know you've put a TON of time in your remote.

Jon
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday July 21, 2004 at 04:16
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Thanks for the input.

When I find the stomach for it I will try relearning the IR codes for one of the changers and test. Last time this happened after a firmware update I was using the TSU3000 and relearning the IR codes did not help which is why I have not even bothered yet. I am using all 3 codesets, so I will try relearning codeset 3 I guess. Better yet, I can just try your codes Lyndel.

I will not have time for a couple days to get this done, but when I do have time I will be sure to give you all an update. For now the older firmware is doing just fine, until the remote freezes up again that is. :-P

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Post 9 made on Wednesday July 21, 2004 at 10:30
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FYI, I use codesets 1&2 so if jcl is using 3, they all should work.

Lowpro,

Just import my CCF and then copy actions from my IR buttons to yours. This is the easiest thing to do with the Shift-Drag functionality.

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OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday July 21, 2004 at 13:54
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Sounds like I have the whole set then. I will try integrating the 3 code sets from you all when I get a chance later this week. Good deal!

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Post 11 made on Wednesday July 21, 2004 at 17:37
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That's why I posted them. This CCF also has all function codes for the 2 devices used for each command mode (taken from 860 and 777ES). If there's not a text button that is shown matching your wants, chances are that the code you want resides in one of the 0x?? function codes.

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Post 12 made on Wednesday August 18, 2004 at 05:02
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On 07/20/04 19:15 ET, sandman1572 said...
Yes interesting this - the memory loss has also
been reported in the 3.3.4 announcement thread.
I too have noticed quite a large decrease in my
reported memory.
After having read the response by Lyndel above
I reloaded the firmware and elected to remove
my configuration (previously I had reqested to
keep it). The firmware upgrade then loads the
default config and then applies the upgrade. Memeory
was at 74% after this. Then I uploaded my config
and hey presto back down to 34% again (it was
65% before the upgrade :-)!!!

Just to buck the trend, I've just downloaded 3.3.4 and my free memory increased from 83% to 88%. I elected to leave the CCF in the unit while upgrading.
OP | Post 13 made on Thursday October 28, 2004 at 18:00
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I am happy to share with everyone a "real" workaround for the issue with Sony DVD IR codes and the latest firmware. With the pending release of the next firmware update, most notably the ability of the firmware to address all 32 megs in the remote, I wanted to be sure I had a real workaround for this. Who knows if this will be fixed when the next firmware update comes out. With the help of Lyndel McGee I now have a real workaround for this issue. By modifying these Sony DVD IR codes in a specific way, the .1 second delay action is no longer required in the action list prior to the IR code for a short button press to work. Again, I want to thank Lyndel McGee for suggesting this change to the IR codes. It works like a charm. The process to modify each Sony DVD IR code is below. Enjoy!

Here is the Sony DVD "play" IR code for Command Mode 1:

0000 0066 0000 0015 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030
0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018
0222

This code is broken down as follows:

0000 (Raw format marker)
0066 (Timing factor)
0000 (One-shot pair count)
0015 (Repeating pair count)
0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0222 (Repeating data)

We are now going to add a one-shot to this code by simply copying the entire block of repeat data and pasting it one time at end.

0000 0066 0000 0015 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030
0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018
0222 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018
0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0222

Lastly we need to change the one-shot count to match the repeat count.

0000 0066 0015 0015 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030
0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018
0222 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018
0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0222

That's all there is to it. This modified code will now work on a short button press using the latest firmware. The .1 second delay action is no longer needed. :-) How bout that for a work around!

Original Sony DVD "Play - Command Mode 1" code:

0000 0066 0000 0015 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030
0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018
0222

(Does not work on a short button press with latest firmware.)

Modified Sony DVD "Play - Command Mode 1" code:

0000 0066 0015 0015 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030
0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018
0222 0061 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018
0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0222

(Does work on a short button press with the latest firmware.)

I have already modified all my Sony DVD IR codes in this manner and tested. All these codes now work on a short button press just as they did with all prior firmware. The only exception to this is the Sony discrete power on codes. They still require that .1 second delay action in the action list prior to the IR code for a short button press to work. Hardly a big deal. :-)

Sony IR codes are always repeating codes if I remember correctly from my conversation with Lyndel. Evidently, the changes made in the latest TSU7000 firmware are not allowing these particular repeating codes to execute properly. By changing each code from a repeating code to both a one-shot and a repeat code, a short button press once again works. This is a much better solution than adding that .1 second delay.

I first encountered this issue when I owned a TSU3000 and its latest firmware was released. It is my opinion that the latest firmware for both the TSU7000 and TSU3000 share a common problem. Both made notable changes to the IR handling, and in both cases people left and right were having to add this .1 second delay to get their codes to work again on a short button press. If you do own a TSU3000 and are encountered this same issue with your Sony DVD IR codes, definately give this workaround a try. I no longer own a TSU3000 or I would test this out to confirm.

-Lowpro

This message was edited by Lowpro on 10/30/04 08:59 ET.
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Post 14 made on Saturday October 30, 2004 at 12:45
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Thanks for the leg work Lowpro and Lyndel. I'll modify mine as well and maybe start using my changer again :-) Actually, just been too busy to watch movies.
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Post 15 made on Monday November 1, 2004 at 18:58
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