Thanks for looking...

I am having problems with IR codes from the PS2 IR Dongle, specifically regarding the directional keys (this is for a PS3). These are the codes I've created in MakeHex that seem to work based off of [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Device Code: 26.73 Function: 121
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 122
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 123
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01C6
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 124
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE

However, when put into the Pronto, each direction key skips 3 spaces, not one as expected. I have played with durations to no avail, so I am wondering if there is anything I can do to the raw code that might change this.

Thanks,
Ed

Are you using these signals as the only item in the action list for the Pronto button?

If used that way, the duration of the signal you get depends on the length of time you press the button. Usually that is what you want.

Is there more than one thing in that action list (the signal is used as part of a macro, or maybe you just added a delay or other minor action to what you think of as a single function button)? If so, then the duration does not depend on the length of time you press the button.

Either way you might have the same problem you describe. But correction for the problem may be very different.

If the signal duration should depend on the button press duration then you may need to fine tune the timing of frame rate relative to duration.

The most basic change is the last value in the Pronto Hex string (the 01DE or 01C6 in your examples). You may want to significantly change that value. But I don't know enough about the way your Sony device responds to the timing of IR signals to tell you which way to change it or by how much. You would need to experiment. Try 0900 and see what that does (small changes like using 0200 instead of 01DE probably would have no measurable effect).

It might need two level timing to get the desired behavior (first pause longer than subsequent ones). To get that, try changing the Form line in Sony20.irp to say:
Form=*,f:7,d:5,s:8,-100m;*,f:7,d:5,s:8

See how that behaves. We can fine tune further based on results.

If you don't need the signal duration to vary with the button press duration, getting the desired behavior is simpler, but some experimentation is still needed. I don't think the minimum duration will be reliable (but experimentation may prove otherwise). I think you should first try one frame more than minimum duration. To get that, change the Form line to:
Form=*,f:7,d:5,s:8,^45m,*,f:7,d:5,s:8,^90m

John,

I'll get looking at this, but as to your first question, yes, this is the only action being sent. I do find it odd. :)

Thanks,
Ed

As for the first suggestion on editing the IRP file, I am getting invalid IR codes:

Device Code: 26.73 Function: 121
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 122
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 123
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.73 Function: 124
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 3CD14D

As for the second, they were valid, but the codes didn't do anything.

Also, I found out I put the wrong codes in the original...sorry.

The codes in question are:

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01AE

Also, if you're interested, this is the original learned code which exhibits the same properties as what was input into makehex...for up arrow

0000 0066 003F 0015 0061 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE 0061 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE 0061 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 01DE 0061 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE

This was the shortest I could press the button. :)

That first suggestion wan't for editing the .irp file, it was for directly editing the Pronto Hex. I thought that would be faster to test. If you wanted to do the same by editing the .irp file, that would be done by changing the Message Time to something such as 90m.

I wouldn't expect any codes you get from either of the .irp changes I suggested to do nothing. Is that really what you meant? Or did you mean it just wasn't different from the original behavior?

What Pronto Hex strings did you get? Maybe you have an older MakeHex.exe than I'm using.

Your learned signal sends Sony20:26.73:121 three times then starts repeating Sony20:26.218:84 about twenty times per second.

Your simple MakeHex signals just send Sony20:26.218:84 twenty times per second as long as the button is held.

Do you know what the Sony20:26.73:121 part of the signal is doing? That page of Sony codes says that is the "Up" signal for a Sony DVD. Is your original remote (that you learned from) sending the same command for two different devices?

MakeHex 4.0

I also did the 9000 editing to the hex directly in ProntoEdit. The original functionality no longer worked.

The IRP edits...the first IRP edits gave me an invalid IR, so it was unusable.

The second IRP edits gave me valid IR codes, but again, the original functionality no longer worked.

Hopefully this is a bit clearer than my last posts... :)

My understanding is that yes, the commands from the PS2 remote (directional arrows) sends 20:26.73:121-125 *and* 20:26.218:84-87. However, in separating them out using MakeHex, I found that I only truly need 26.218 and not 26.73 for the IR codes to work. Both the code I learned and the MakeHex single code show the same response on the console.

I said 0900 not 9000. I wouldn't expect 9000 to break it, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure 0900 wouldn't break it.

Were you working with the 26.73 codes or the 26.218 codes?


That doesn't happen for me. I haven't been very good about version numbering in MakeHex. I go by date. Make sure you at least have the current released version at:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
But I'm not certain that has everything the version I use myself has.


Post the Pronto Hex. I really don't expect any of these changes to remove the functionality, just to change the timing and maybe the number of times the device decides the function was repeated.

0900, not 9000...sorry. Either way, ProntoEdit changes the hex to 08F8, which shouldn't matter. :)

I started out with 26.73, but then realized I was using 26.218

The first edit had this output:

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 3CD14D
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 0015 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 3CD14D

Invalid IR

The second IRP gave out this code:

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 0016 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 06FA 0000
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 0016 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 06FA 0000
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 0016 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 06FA 0000
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 0016 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 06FA 0000

Of course, the version of MakeHex up on your site is 4.12 and not 4.0 which is what I'm using, so let me try the suggestions with that version first. :)

Okay, so here's the results with the new MakeHex.

New code generated

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 0000 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01AE

Works exactly the same as the first iteration.

Adding 08F8

No change...still skips.

First IRP iteration

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 0015 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0FA9 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 0015 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0FA9 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 0015 0015 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0FA9 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 0015 0015 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0FA9 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01AE

Results: Same (skips)

2nd iteration of IRP

Device Code: 26.218 Function: 84
0000 0068 002A 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE 0060 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01DE
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 85
0000 0068 002A 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 86
0000 0068 002A 0000 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01C6
Device Code: 26.218 Function: 87
0000 0068 002A 0000 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01AE 0060 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 01AE

Results:

Same skipping

That doesn't make sense. Something is wrong with the way you're testing that. I'd believe two spaces instead of one for that last code, though I sure wouldn't expect it. I don't believe three.

The shortest duration of this signal you can send can be created with MakeHex by removing the ; from the Form line (and otherwise leaving that line unchanged from the version in the .zip file). That would send only a single frame of the signal.

But we know the original remote sends more than that. You said you learned a very short press of the original remote and the Pronto saw three frames of the 26.73 signal followed by at least three frames of the 26.218 signal (I can't tell how many, but it encoded the results in a way that would take at least three).

I assume the original remote can make the device execute the function just once.

It's three...trust me. No change on either.

However, I believe the original remote has the same skipping in this mode, which is the PS3 XMB. DVD and BD playback is fine with the code. The XMB skips.

Could very well be a problem with how IR isn't implemented on the PS3. I'm going to keep trying, but I think until Sony gets off their arse and implements IR correctly, it's just going to keep doing this as I believe the IR is correct.

Thanks for your help.