thanks for all the help guys, i tried that 37144 code and it didnt work, and no i dont have the original remote, but i went to the pioneer web site, and i dowloaded the manual for it, and it says to setup what size speakers,speaker delay,channel level, chrossover network ect. u need to go to the system setup menu, and i need this so then instead of sending the low bass threough the front speakers, i want it to go through the powerd sub i have and to do that, i need to set my front speakers to small, so anyone know a way to do that with out using a remote maybe?? and on the remote, the actual name of the button was "system setup" thanks again