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Post 19 made on Friday December 24, 2021 at 11:46
Anthony
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On December 23, 2021 at 23:50, tomciara said...
This needs more of a deep dive.

1. Why does someone who is vaxxed have to be sequestered?  That is a medical error, maybe malpractice, the vax gives the freedom to come and go as you please.  You can’t get infected nor infect anyone else. If you are being forced, by fear or mandate, to sequester, that is absolutely not right.  That was whole reason for the vaccine.

because vaccines are not magic forcefields. All vaccines are basically teachers that teach the body how to defend itself better. Some vaccines one lesson is good for the rest if your life with other vaccines you need to give the lesson over and over again (aka booster shots). Because the body is better to defend itself it means the effects will be a bit milder (good for the individual), will most likely be less contagious for a shorter period (good for society) and it will make it harder for them to catch it ( good for the individual and society)

the only real way to make sure it does not spread or that a particular person won't be seriously ill is to make sure that they avoid catching it in the first place.




2. Current data does not indicate an anti crowd makes up the majority of hospitalizations.  Some studies yes, some no.  Check out Israel’s studies - one of the highest vaccination rates, many of them get hospitalized anyway.

majority is a tricky word. If a population is 95% vaccinated and the vaccinated count for 51% then yes the majority in the hospitals is vaccinated people but roughly 1/2 come from unvaccinated while they only account for 5% of the population.
Also Covid is a very ageist disease before the vaccine the 70+ age group accounted for roughly 60% of hospitalizations here and 20-50 fro less then 10% now because 70+ is more then 99% tripply vaccinated they account for less then 30% and because 20-50 are the least vaccinated they account for more then 30%

[Link: inspq.qc.ca] (sorry info is in French)

On a side note, why are the NBA and NFL having so many issues now?

same as the NHL. A mixture of Omicron is a lot more contagious, people are a lot more relaxed, numbers are going up in many places....
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