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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 12, 2007 at 02:57
Warren Paradise
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I am having trouble controlling a Netstreams SL 250 with the IR Linx from an RTI Rp6. I know that you can't directly connect the 2 with a mini cable so you have to use an IR flasher with their IR target. I have spent hours fiddling with the IR output levels and only can get the commands to work about 75% of the time. Has anybody else had experience with this situation?
Post 2 made on Wednesday December 12, 2007 at 08:36
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I'm not familiar with NetStreams... but why can't you connect the two with the mini cable? Is it a proprietary connection (Like Sony S-link)? If it is, have you tried stripping the freq. (Set Freq. to ZERO in IR properties)?

Does NetStreams use Toggle Bit?
Post 3 made on Wednesday December 12, 2007 at 11:29
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On December 12, 2007 at 08:36, AndyM said...
I'm not familiar with NetStreams... but why can't you
connect the two with the mini cable? Is it a proprietary
connection (Like Sony S-link)? If it is, have you tried
stripping the freq. (Set Freq. to ZERO in IR properties)?

Does NetStreams use Toggle Bit?

The issue is that due to the EIM bus, that the Irlynx connects to, that they couldn't allow one to use the other common reeivers from other brands. Becauase of this they had to develop their own receiver that uses lower power levels and thus is not compatible for a direct connection. Stupid I know.

AndyM

Where is the Ir lynx located. I have heard other peole mention that interference from Plasme and other EIm sources can really affect performance, even though its supposed to be a plasma proof receiver. What brand emitter are you using? Have you tried another brand to se if you get better results?
Post 4 made on Wednesday December 12, 2007 at 11:32
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Just though I would ask..... are you using the RTI pigtail with the IR emitter?

Is your IR port routing correct?

From where are you getting the codes?
Post 5 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 00:01
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Are you using any RTI with Wi-Fi? If so...is there any reason you are not controlling the SL250 directly? Very curious...just started one of three T4's that are to integrate into a Netstreams system with 14 SLs...please tell me there are no issues with this!!!
Uh Oh.
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 11:49
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I have one T4 but haven't got to that point yet.
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 11:52
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The IR linx is in the rack in the closet with the SL 250's. Netstreams emitters have very low output. I've had a little luck with the Xantech emitters.
OP | Post 8 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 11:56
Warren Paradise
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Yes I always use the pigtails with emitters.
Yes correct port routing.
Got the codes from the dealer section of the Netstreams website.
The interesting thing is that if you send an IR signal from a remote (T-2C, M2) to a Netstreams keypad with an IR target it works fine. If you do the same with the IR linx it is also fine. It is only when it gets a signal from an emitter connected to the RP-6!
Post 9 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 14:19
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On December 13, 2007 at 00:01, Jim SFL said...
Are you using any RTI with Wi-Fi? If so...is there any
reason you are not controlling the SL250 directly? Very
curious...just started one of three T4's that are to integrate
into a Netstreams system with 14 SLs...please tell me
there are no issues with this!!!

As far as the no issues part, it depends on how you are planning to control the system with the T4's. You mention three T4's to control I guess 14 rooms (i.e. SL). In what way are you planning on talking to the SL250's if you are not using the web interface? Rae you using IRLynx's in each room?
Post 10 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 19:20
Jim SFL
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THE RIGHT WAY
Look up application note 030042 on netstreams website...it shows how to install an IRlinx with the keylinx for this issue

THE COOL WAY (CURIOUS IF IT WORKS)
Double check with Netstreams tech support (one of the best I've had to talk to)...the XP8 can be connected to a controllinx to accomplish this...not sure if it is an RP6...

THE CUSTOM INSTALLERS WAY - RIGGING
We had similar issues controlling thier panorama matrix switchers, but with enough adjusting of the RF antenna (to eliminate interferance) and the emmiter levels, they now work rock solid. Don't forget, if you have any DVR's in the rack or a media server, the hard drive will interfere with the RF...we moved 4 EVRs and an Escient to the bottom rack spaces and always mount the antenna at the top, yet if I set my laptop on the rack while programming, the whole system freezes.
Uh Oh.
Post 11 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 22:45
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On December 13, 2007 at 19:20, Jim SFL said...

THE COOL WAY (CURIOUS IF IT WORKS)
Double check with Netstreams tech support (one of the
best I've had to talk to)...the XP8 can be connected to
a controllinx to accomplish this...not sure if it is an
RP6...

Are you referring to the serialtocommand.lua? If so its the Rp6, especially since there is no XP8 yet.
Post 12 made on Friday December 14, 2007 at 01:23
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On December 13, 2007 at 14:19, imt said...
In what way are you planning on talking to the SL250's

I am using the web interface...I was curious about the system in question.
Uh Oh.
Post 13 made on Friday December 14, 2007 at 01:26
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On December 13, 2007 at 22:45, imt said...
Are you referring to the serialtocommand.lua? If so its
the Rp6, especially since there is no XP8 yet.

Do not know what the serialtocommand.lua is...have not needed it - but good to know the RP6 can be integrated. Don't anyone get exited, but I heard (no confirmation) XP8s were slowly shipping to backorders (from 12 months ago).
Uh Oh.
Post 14 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 14:25
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On December 13, 2007 at 19:20, Jim SFL said...
THE COOL WAY (CURIOUS IF IT WORKS)
Double check with Netstreams tech support (one of the
best I've had to talk to)...the XP8 can be connected to
a controllinx to accomplish this...not sure if it is an
RP6...

I'm curious if it works, too.
On December 14, 2007 at 01:26, Jim SFL said...
Don't anyone get excited, but I heard (no confirmation)
XP8s were slowly shipping to backorders (from 12 months
ago).

Then it's too early to title something "COOL WAY" and include "the XP8 can be connected." It's "might work if connected."

For some reason, despite your "CURIOUS IF IT WORKS," as I read it I thought you had actually implemented this on an XP8. I think it was the strong and positive "can" in there.

Then I read that it's a rumor that the XP8 is shipping and I thought maybe writing this should have waited. I say this only because I've gotten lots of ideas from manuals, only to find that I missed something on another page that tells why it can't work, or they missed putting in a detail that nixed the whole thing. Then there was the original Sony G-90 projector manual (three-gun machine, had to be mounted in exactly the right spot) where the math was wrong in some throw distance calcs and the chart said distance to the lens and gave distance to the mount. Following directions meant the image was about 85% of the brightness it could be.

RTI is really wonderful, but such ideas should be clearly labeled as hypotheticals until you've seen it work.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 15 made on Thursday December 20, 2007 at 02:39
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For some reason, despite your "CURIOUS IF IT WORKS," as
I read it I thought you had actually implemented this
on an XP8.

Not sure what part of "Curious if it works" you didn't understand. The strong 'can' come from Netstreams tech support and application notes. However, my humble experiance taught me these are not always accurate - just last month tried to use two Panorama matrix switches mirroring eachother - the application notes failed to mention they have no internal RS232 generator and I would need a third party one to make it work.

I'm really sorry that you have issues when things don't go your way, but I thought this was a 'friendly' forum for guys to help eachother out with ideas of what might work. If this is not the case, I will make sure in the future to only listen to suggestions made by you as you are clearly the almighty since you were came up with the correct solution to this problem...oh wait that wasn't you.

I may be new to this forum, but may I suggest that you read the whole post in the future as Here I gave THREE options...the first labeled 'the right way' - taken again right from netstreams tech support and application notes.
Uh Oh.
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