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Post 16 made on Thursday October 5, 2006 at 17:29
Eigeny Oulianov
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Daikin codes of FTK25/FTX25 with remote ARC423A1 are is in type of
0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B ...
and I know that Pronto/ProntoNG will not learn them, but can replay. I use 96-command subset of Daikin commands to control it on Crestron installations. If you need, I will convert that Crestron driver.

The codes of 0000 006F 00C3 0001 0081 0041 0010 0031 ... are originally from Panasonic Air conditioners, and must be 0000 006F 010A 0000 0080 0040 ... to be correct. Pronto can't replay so long codes.
OP | Post 17 made on Friday October 6, 2006 at 01:48
fleetz
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On October 5, 2006 at 17:29, Eigeny Oulianov said...
Daikin codes of FTK25/FTX25 with remote ARC423A1 are is
in type of
0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B ...
and I know that Pronto/ProntoNG will not learn them, but
can replay. I use 96-command subset of Daikin commands
to control it on Crestron installations. If you need,
I will convert that Crestron driver.

The codes of 0000 006F 00C3 0001 0081 0041 0010 0031 ...
are originally from Panasonic Air conditioners, and must
be 0000 006F 010A 0000 0080 0040 ... to be correct. Pronto
can't replay so long codes.

Hi Eigeny,

Thank you very much for your response! Also for your kind offer to convert them over. I am getting the correct model number of the Daikin that will be installed into our new building from the supplier and will forward it when I have it.

Can I get this right in my mind....are you saying that there are two different types of codes that the DAikin will respond to? The long hex code that I have read from a Daikin remote and then a 96 command subset?

Is then this a 96 command subset using the example above??? Code2B=+,16 Deg Fan High Swing,00,F0,39,77,A4,17,E7,DF,FF If so what gets sent via the remote?

Once you convert over to the 96 command subset would that then make the chances of working in other remote controls eg RTI etc a good chance as it is now a great reduced string?

Appreciate your input.

Regards,

Ian

Last edited by fleetz on October 6, 2006 01:58.
Post 18 made on Friday October 6, 2006 at 09:55
johnsfine
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Eigeny please correct me if I'm misunderstanding this.

There are two completely different command sets here, the long commands that Ian learned and the super long commands Lee learned.

Different models of Daikin use the different command types. A single Daikin model would respond to just one command type, not the other.

There is a problem learning the long commands, but Eigeny and maybe other online sources have those commands in a form the Pronto can transmit.

The super long signals cannot be transmitted by a Pronto from a single string of Pronto Hex. I don't know whether you can use the long gap in the signal to work around that.
Post 19 made on Sunday October 8, 2006 at 12:59
Eigeny Oulianov
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Sorry, I may not so clear in talking.

Commands like 0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B ... are for Daikin. Old Prontos may learn and replay them, but NG can't learn and import. Now I make a convertor for this purpose (I hope, NG _will_ play my synthetic codes)

There are _many_ commands for Daikin -
3 modes (Auto, Cool, Dry) x 15 temperatures (18C-32C) x 4 fan modes (low, med, hi, auto) = 180 commands, plus OFF, wet and powerful modes (ignoring Swing, timers etc).
I cut odd temperatures and use the rest 96 command at Crestron installations. Currently I prefer to control Daikin via LON-RS232 interface - it contains 2-way interface at this solution.

Commands like 0000 006F 010A 0000 0080 0040 ... (or erratically learned (?) 0000 006F 00C3 0001 0081 0041 0010 0031 ...) are for Panasonic air conditioners (at least, I have touched them at Panasonic). These commands are too hard either for Pronto, NG or for Crestron. May be, Panasonic make some OEM for Daikin?
OP | Post 20 made on Sunday October 8, 2006 at 17:51
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On October 8, 2006 at 12:59, Eigeny Oulianov said...
Sorry, I may not so clear in talking.

Commands like 0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B
... are for Daikin. Old Prontos may learn and replay them,
but NG can't learn and import. Now I make a convertor
for this purpose (I hope, NG _will_ play my synthetic
codes)

There are _many_ commands for Daikin -
3 modes (Auto, Cool, Dry) x 15 temperatures (18C-32C)
x 4 fan modes (low, med, hi, auto) = 180 commands, plus
OFF, wet and powerful modes (ignoring Swing, timers etc).
I cut odd temperatures and use the rest 96 command at
Crestron installations. Currently I prefer to control
Daikin via LON-RS232 interface - it contains 2-way interface
at this solution.

Commands like 0000 006F 010A 0000 0080 0040 ... (or erratically
learned (?) 0000 006F 00C3 0001 0081 0041 0010 0031 ...)
are for Panasonic air conditioners (at least, I have touched
them at Panasonic). These commands are too hard either
for Pronto, NG or for Crestron. May be, Panasonic make
some OEM for Daikin?

Thanks for your input. If you are still willing I would like to take you up on your earlier offer to convert the codes over. When I get the actual remote I will be back in touch and find out what exactly you need to do the conversion.

What was your spin on the data in my previous post, I reposted just a portion?

DaikinAircon(BRC4C153)=Daikin Aircon (BRC4C153),*
>DaikinAircon(BRC4C153)
Code1A=*,Off,21,12,18,0A,27,2C,28,7F,01
Code1B=+,Off,00,F0,39,77,A4,17,E7,DF,FF
Code1C=+,Off,87,80,FC,8A,00,F0,79,77,A4
Code1D=+,Off,17,E7,FF,31,FF,FB,FF,FF,8F
Code1E=+,Off,53,FF,FB,F7,80,FF
Code2A=*,16 Deg Fan High Swing,21,12,18,09,27,2C,27,7F,01
Code2B=+,16 Deg Fan High Swing,00,F0,39,77,A4,17,E7,DF,FF
Code2C=+,16 Deg Fan High Swing,87,80,FC,8A,00,F0,79,77,A4
Code2D=+,16 Deg Fan High Swing,17,E7,FF,31,FF,7B,FF,FF,8F
Didn't repost the whole lot

The LON-232 is of interest, I will check with Daiken today if this is available on the model I will be using. Does the LON-232 control at a head level or at an outdoor unit level? I have 7 heads and 2 outdoor units in the house I am building so would I need two RS-232 ports or seven ?

Thanks again for your expert input.

Regards,

Fleetz
Post 21 made on Monday October 9, 2006 at 03:11
Eigeny Oulianov
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I think, these codes are the same in different notations:

Code1A=*,Off,21,12,18,0A,27,2C,28,7F,01
Code1B=+,Off,00,F0,39,77,A4,17,E7,DF,FF
Code1C=+,Off,87,80,FC,8A,00,F0,79,77,A4
Code1D=+,Off,17,E7,FF,31,FF,FB,FF,FF,8F
Code1E=+,Off,53,FF,FB,F7,80,FF

OFF=0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 03D5 00A8 0047 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 003B 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 0017 000C 000C

The whole scheme for control is

[up to 64 Daikin ends]-Daikin network-[DMS-IF (DMS504B71)]-LON-[Crestron CGLON-62]-rs232-[Crestron control processor]-Cresnet or Ethernet or WiFi or Crestron 2-way RF-[Crestron 2-way Touchpanel or PC with XPanel]

[Link: daikin.de]

(I can't found it in English)
OP | Post 22 made on Monday October 9, 2006 at 05:27
fleetz
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On October 8, 2006 at 12:59, Eigeny Oulianov said...
Sorry, I may not so clear in talking.

Commands like 0000 007D 0000 00A4 00A8 0047 000C 003B
... are for Daikin. Old Prontos may learn and replay them,
but NG can't learn and import. Now I make a convertor
for this purpose (I hope, NG _will_ play my synthetic
codes)

There are _many_ commands for Daikin -
3 modes (Auto, Cool, Dry) x 15 temperatures (18C-32C)
x 4 fan modes (low, med, hi, auto) = 180 commands, plus
OFF, wet and powerful modes (ignoring Swing, timers etc).
I cut odd temperatures and use the rest 96 command at
Crestron installations. Currently I prefer to control
Daikin via LON-RS232 interface - it contains 2-way interface
at this solution.

Commands like 0000 006F 010A 0000 0080 0040 ... (or erratically
learned (?) 0000 006F 00C3 0001 0081 0041 0010 0031 ...)
are for Panasonic air conditioners (at least, I have touched
them at Panasonic). These commands are too hard either
for Pronto, NG or for Crestron. May be, Panasonic make
some OEM for Daikin?

Hi Eigeny,

Is it possible to get the RS232 protocol for the Daikin via LON-232? Being a two way interface this would be a tighter solution. I have a 232 expander interface on the ELK M1 system, it uses an ASCII interface do the DAikin LON-232 support ASCII?

Appeciate any assistance.

Regards,

Fleetz
Post 23 made on Tuesday October 10, 2006 at 04:49
Eigeny Oulianov
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I have used Crestron LON-232 module CGLON-62 (www.crestron-int.be). It uses 38400/8/1/N with clear protocol - ask if you need.
I think, you may also ask your daikin dealers for Daikin-232 device

I make 1st beta of convertor, and this is what it make for Daikin:
[Link: rapidshare.de]

if somebody will test it, I will be very grateful - I can't do it now.
Note: the codes are too long, copy-paste of entire IR code will not work. You may link to a these buttons, copy whole button or copy actions, but not hex code.

Last edited by Eigeny Oulianov on October 10, 2006 19:13.
Post 24 made on Tuesday October 10, 2006 at 19:20
Eigeny Oulianov
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OP | Post 25 made on Friday October 13, 2006 at 03:38
fleetz
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On October 10, 2006 at 04:49, Eigeny Oulianov said...
I have used Crestron LON-232 module CGLON-62 (www.crestron-int.be).
It uses 38400/8/1/N with clear protocol - ask if you need.
I think, you may also ask your daikin dealers for Daikin-232
device

I make 1st beta of convertor, and this is what it make
for Daikin:
[Link: rapidshare.de]

if somebody will test it, I will be very grateful - I
can't do it now.
Note: the codes are too long, copy-paste of entire IR
code will not work. You may link to a these buttons, copy
whole button or copy actions, but not hex code.

Hi Eigeny,

Thanks for the .pcf however the zip folder contain nothing.

Regards,

Fleetz
Post 26 made on Friday October 13, 2006 at 04:20
Eigeny Oulianov
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On October 13, 2006 at 03:38, fleetz said...
Hi Eigeny,

Thanks for the .pcf however the zip folder contain nothing.

Regards,

Fleetz

cond1.pcf (8578 bytes) is a PCF. If you will open it in WinRAR (in stead of ProntoProEdit NG), it will contain a file "\ConfigEdit.xml" (135301 bytes) and a comment
Type:014
Version:003.001
There is no graphics in it, so folder "\Bitmaps" is absent.

What is the Pronto model you want to use for?
You can open it in ProntoEdit NG and in ProntoProEdit NG.

What is the program that contains the empty view "zip folder"?
OP | Post 27 made on Friday October 13, 2006 at 18:53
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On October 13, 2006 at 04:20, Eigeny Oulianov said...
cond1.pcf (8578 bytes) is a PCF. If you will open it in
WinRAR (in stead of ProntoProEdit NG), it will contain
a file "\ConfigEdit.xml" (135301 bytes) and a comment

Type:014
Version:003.001
There is no graphics in it, so folder "\Bitmaps" is absent.

What is the Pronto model you want to use for?

You can open it in ProntoEdit NG and in ProntoProEdit
NG.

What is the program that contains the empty view "zip
folder"?

Hi Eigeny,

I just downloaded it again and instead of my PC seeing a Zip file is now sees a .pcf and I have been able to open in ProntoEdit NG. So thank you again.

Are you saying that the Pronto won't fire the codes as they are currently stored? Unfortunately I can not test these at the moment however I will hopefully be able to so as I hope to get a test system from the Daikin dealer we are buying the systems from. I believe it is a remote control (the version that will be supplied with our installed systems) and some a Daikin interface board that will accept the IR signal and then do something. Not sure exactly what probably switch a LED or relay on or off which will probably be sufficient to prove the IR TX-RX bit.

The codes that you have sent which remote is it? The BRC4C153? I know that this is not the remote that untimately I will be using so if it is could I respectfully ask you for the codes of the remote control that I will be ultimately using when it is known.

Once I have the test Daikin IR system I will feedback how it all went.

Regards,

Fleetz

Post 28 made on Saturday October 14, 2006 at 04:38
Eigeny Oulianov
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I have located a restriction for pcf code size - 119 bytes as maximum. It is possible to vary codes btw size and precisioin - so this is next version, that corresponds for this restriction:

[Link: rapidshare.de]

My RU990 fires the codes (in stead of previous try, as I detect).
The codes was loaded from remote ARC424A1, and are the same with two other Daikin IR remotes, excepting the modes - some models has, say, "DRY" mode, and others - not.

I have chechked - the Daikin DMS-IF interface is for "big" conditioneers, and I can't check if it work with split systems, RTFM (my deutsch is 0).

Also, the HomeVision gadget ([Link: csi3.com]) may convert IR->RS232 - it may help to build a control way :)
OP | Post 29 made on Saturday October 14, 2006 at 08:05
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Hi Eigeny,

Thanks again for you response it is appreciated. My my deutsch is 0 too.. I am in Australia!

I hope that in the next couple of weeks that the test rig I was talking about earlier will come to reality and I can feedback my findings.

Thanks again.. I will be in touch.

Regards,

Fleetz
Post 30 made on Friday June 30, 2017 at 04:33
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May I ask that if I am trying to copy a remote using a PIC microcontroller, is there any way I can use these hex codes to build my library. And yes I am have never posted any message to any forum before. If I am not following any posting protocol, forgive me for that.
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