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3000 won't learn Barco codes
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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 17:00
koreth
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I'm unable to get the 3000 to successfully learn the IR codes for my Barco 1208 video projector. It claims to be learning them (chirps and says "OK" in learn mode after I press the corresponding buttons on the original remote) and the remote is sending some kind of IR when I hit the buttons, but no response from the projector.

I was able to learn the codes on my old TSU1000, and the original remote is still working fine. Tried importing my old CCF into PENG to get the codes but no luck.

Anyone else used a 3000 with a Barco?
Post 2 made on Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 18:25
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I have found on CCF's I can't load if I cut out some stuff they import better.

Try making a copy of your ccf and removing evrything but the barco stuff and then importing it.

Cooch
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 20:16
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Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried that and it didn't help. Maybe I'll try teaching the 3000 from the 1000 rather than from the original remote.
Post 4 made on Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 21:31
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koreth;
Your problem sounds a lot like the one I have with my Airboard keyboard. All my efforts so far were unsuccessful => see separate thread. Maybe you can figure it out for your situation and I can piggy bag :)

I will monitor this thread.
Post 5 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 00:13
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Hi Guys,

This is exactly the same problem I had with my Pronto Neo. My solution? Sell the Neo and buy a 3000! It's in transit from the US to me at the moment. As you can imagine, I'm somewhat disappointed to find out that the 3000 won't work either. I figured that with all the ccf's for the Barco from 1000 and 2000 owners that the 3000 would at least work as well.

I'll give it a go when it arrives, and let you all know how it goes.

Regards,
Phil
OP | Post 6 made on Friday March 14, 2003 at 16:39
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Well, no luck on this so far, I'm sorry to say. I tried teaching the 3000 from the 1000 but that didn't help; didn't think it was likely to but it was worth a shot.

I suspect any remote codes that the Neo can't learn will be problematic on the 3000 as well; my understanding (from earlier posts here) is that the 3000 is based on the Neo internally.

I'm also having a similar problem with codes for my Lutron Grafik Eye, though in that case the 3000 will learn a couple of the codes but not all of them.

My fallback position, which is less than satisfactory, is to send IR commands to my PC and have it send the correct codes to the other devices using an IR blaster. But I'd sure prefer to just use the 3000 as is.
Post 7 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 06:40
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OK - got the 3000. Short answer, no luck at all.

I've tried importing all 8 Barco ccf's into PENG, uploading to the 3000 and trying all the buttons in all 8 configs. Not one of them worked. I learned all the buttons from my One For All (which works with the Barco) and again no luck at all, even though the 3000 says they learnt OK. I don't have an orginal Barco remote, so I can't test that.

My next step is to contact Phillip support and see waht they have to say about it. I would recommend that anyone with a Barco that wants to see this fixed do the same.

On a related note, coming from a Pronto NEO (which I sold because it wouldn't work with the Barco), it seems that the 3000 is very similar in operation. The NEO behaved identically.

Phil
OP | Post 8 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 14:50
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I suspect the Barco remote must just operate at a frequency that's outside the range of the IR transmitter in the Neo/3000 (which probably use the same IR hardware internally.) In which case there's really nothing Philips is going to be able to do about it short of revamping the remote with different IR hardware. Apparently the 3000's IR *receiver* is okay with the Barco's frequency range since the 3000 thinks it's learning the codes.

I find this annoying to say the least -- I paid more for the 3000 than for my original Pronto, and I would've expected the IR transmitter to be at least as good if not better -- but for me at least, the 3000 is enough of an improvement in other ways that I'm going to grit my teeth and keep the original Barco remote handy for those occasions when I need to make adjustments.

What I've done to make the situation more tolerable is run an RS232 cable from the projector to my home theater PC. A while back I wrote a little app that talks to the projector and can turn the power on and off (you can find it here) and I've defined some RC5 codes in ProntoEdit4 that tell the PC to run the app.

Since powering the projector on and off is all I want to do with it 99% of the time, this makes the 3000's inability to talk to the projector an annoyance rather than a showstopper for me. But I'd still rather not have to have that additional remote hanging around.
Post 9 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 19:55
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Thanks for the app. In fact, that was the way I was thinking of getting aroud it for the moment as well. Before I got the One for All working, I was playing around using the serial port and Girder to send serial commands to the Barco.

I've been thinking of putting an X-10 module on the power input for the Barco. That would allow me to change the internal Barco config so it powers up instead of going into standby when power is applied. Then I can control the X-10 from the Pronto and have the Barco power up and down as I need it.

I'll let you know of any developments.

Phil
Post 10 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 20:56
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koreth, nettek;
I understand you got your 3000 talking to your PC. What kind of IR receiver are you using? I have still no luck with my Airboard.

Thanks!
Post 11 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 23:19
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magic bob,

I'm using the UIRT2 - you can check it out at

[Link: fukushima.us]

Regards,
Phil
Post 12 made on Saturday March 22, 2003 at 23:38
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Thanks Phil;

In the meantime I tried using RF (via an ATI remote control I had) - also a no go! Also results from my search at the Neo forum it looks like that the TSU3000 will NEVER work with my Airboard.
I am just fed up with this product (and its poor support). I already filled out the RMA request for Amazon.

It’s just too bad I already sold my 2000.

I will have another look at the Marantz 9200. Also the first info about the Sony RM-NX7000 looks very promising.
Post 13 made on Sunday March 23, 2003 at 00:51
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Here's some more information I found. I opened up my PCF file in Winzip and found it to be an XML file and a series of bitmaps. Opened the XML file in Internet Explorer to have a look - guess what - all the learned codes are stored in the XML file in the same format at NEO hex codes! I cross checked a couple of the Barco codes I'd learnt into the NEO and they were exactly the same. So, it looks like the 3000 is actually a NEO with a bigger screen!

Let's hope that Phillips will reverse this lack of functionality in a future firmware update.

Phil
Post 14 made on Sunday March 23, 2003 at 06:45
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Koreth,

I just tried you Barcopower program and am getting a "Failed to read from projector" error in the log file. Barco's Projector Control Software is working OK with it - any ideas?

Thanks,
Phil
OP | Post 15 made on Monday March 24, 2003 at 14:45
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There are some command-line options you can fiddle with to change the port (COM1: by default), projector address (1 by default) and serial port settings (9600,8,n,1 by default). Run with "/help" for a usage message. My guess would be the port is wrong, or the projector address.
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