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WARNING: New Dish 6000 software breaks discrete HD/SD
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 17, 2003 at 10:49
markdl
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Dish Network is currently rolling out software version 778 for the Dish 6000 receivers. The previous version (777) included a discrete HD/SD code workaround that NO LONGER WORKS with 778. We at DBSTalk have contacted Dish Network this morning about this and will report any reply we receive. In the meantime, if you have a Dish 6000 receiver that hasn't received the software upgrade yet, and use the discrete HD/SD workaround, set your 6000 to NOT automatically accept software upgrades.

Mark
Post 2 made on Thursday July 17, 2003 at 15:45
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Yes, let us know!! I was p!ssed when I realized what happened after the download!
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OP | Post 3 made on Friday July 18, 2003 at 14:13
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The lead 6000 developer is looking into it now. I got the impression from him that this was NOT intentional. More as I hear it.

Mark
OP | Post 4 made on Saturday July 19, 2003 at 13:03
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The discrete SD/HD workaround did slip through the cracks because no one on the beta team for the 6000 software uses it...grrr...

I have been assured that it will be back in the new software revision that comes down next month.

Mark
Post 5 made on Sunday July 20, 2003 at 12:49
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Mark,

Rather than putting the workaround back into the software, why don't they just put in real discrete codes for both the HD and SD modes like exist for the on and off modes?

Bob
Post 6 made on Tuesday July 22, 2003 at 02:15
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It's been many months since I did any programming on my Pronto, and I had long since given up on any solution to the Dish6000 lack of discrete SD/HD coding. I was very happy to stumble across this thread and confirmed that my 6000 still has level 777 installed.

The workaround works great for me, and has opened up a new set of opportunities to finesse my Pronto around what was a major weakness. I have the 6000 now set up to block any updates without my acceptance, so hopefully I can sustain the capability until the next Dish level that will support it.
Thanks for working this issue, and keeping us informed of progress.
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday July 24, 2003 at 16:31
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The reason Dish wouldn't put in real discrete codes for the 6000 was because their remote for the 6000 doesn't have the discrete buttons. I argued with them several times about that, and the workaround ended up being the best compromise they would make.

The new software should be out before the end of August, and I've been told the workaround will definitely be back into the software. I'm also working on becoming a beta tester for the 6000 boxes so that something like this doesn't happen again.

Mark
Post 8 made on Saturday July 26, 2003 at 12:32
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Mark,

Dish's rationale for not putting in real discrete codes for the HD/SD modes makes no sense. They claim it's because their remote doesn't have buttons for both codes yet that's exactly the same situation with the discrete power codes (i.e. there aren't separate on and off buttons for them on their remote but they still added them to the receiver). To the best of my knowledge very few remotes include two buttons for power on and power off modes or for any other similar mode which can be toggled from one state to another. Don't discrete codes exist almost exclusively for those of us with Pronto style remotes who wish to improve on the functionality of a components original remote? I'm sure you would agree that real discrete codes for the HD/SD modes would be preferable and likely more reliable.

Bob
Post 9 made on Saturday July 26, 2003 at 15:33
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Don't discrete codes exist almost exclusively for those of us with Pronto style remotes who wish to improve on the functionality of a components original remote?

Originally discrete codes were more for in-house testing. Now some manufacturers started adding them for us, but that was not the original intent
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Post 10 made on Wednesday August 13, 2003 at 12:28
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I have recently had luck with HD6000 discrete on-off codes, but I recently picked up a new unit and the codes do not seem to work. Any help would be good.
Post 11 made on Wednesday August 13, 2003 at 12:40
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Have you read the above post and responses? The discretes were "Inavertantly"(sp) removed in the latest software update. They should be back in the next update.

I'm no engineer, but I did stay at a Motel 6 last night!
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday August 14, 2003 at 16:15
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The workaround will be back. I'm also going to try my damndest to get them to put in true discretes rather than the workaround.

Shawn - make sure you use the correct codes for whatever remote address your new 6000 is set to. Codes for addresses 1-19 are posted in the discrete files area.

Mark
Post 13 made on Thursday August 14, 2003 at 23:18
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Oh.. Were you talking about the Discrete Power commands?

My bad... I assumed you meant the HD on/off since that is what this thread was about.......

Havent had any issues with the Power commands.

I'm no engineer, but I did stay at a Motel 6 last night!
Post 14 made on Friday August 15, 2003 at 10:51
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I was programming and testing the remote at home before the system was delivered to a client. After installing the HD6000, hooking it up to a dish, and downloading the current update, the on/off codes work fine. Whew!
Post 15 made on Tuesday September 30, 2003 at 22:15
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This thread has become a tad confused. Seems that we have at least two issues intermixed, between he original topic of SD/HD workaround, and now discrete power on/off.

I'm patiently waiting for the 780 upgrade to see for myself, but in the meantime can anywone confirm whether or not the SD/HD switch workaround was successfully restored?

There was also a comment earlier in the thread that Dish may include discrete coding for the HD/SD switch that wouldn't require the workaround. Was that included, and if so, do you know the codes for HD and SD?

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