I know some here have discussed this, but I can't seem to find the answers I need.

I know the Cinema7 can't use the 1005 dp code and can only "learn" the functions from the existing dp remote. I've done that with success for a fair amount of keys but now the unit gives me that one, long blink when I try to learn anymore. I think this means I've run out of memory.

While learning keys, I followed someone's advice and instead of holding down the orig remore key until the c-7 blinks, just tap it. It does work, but I think I've still maxed out the c-7 memory.

It may have to do with the fact that I've never been able to get the rca code 0054 code to work and have to learn some it's keys also. If I could get the tuner to accept a code and then use advanced functions, maybe I'd save enough memory to finish learning the dishplayer stuff.

Could someone familar with the rca 0054 code please explain to me (sorry I'm so dense) exactly how to program this code into the c-7 and then add the advanced functions. My tuner is an RCA RV3798 and my dishplayer is a 7200.
Thanks a lot,

Walt

According to my files, the audio 0054 code should be in the C7, but I don't have a C7 with me to test it. You should be able to program it to either the receiver or AUX buttons without any problem. (Just FYI: the 0054 code is missing from the 15-1994).

The learning limit of the C7 is about 24 buttons, give or take, depending on the length of the signal being learned. (The long blink does mean the memory's full).

It's a good idea to totally clear out the remote before you start again, using the 980 command. You can fragment the memory by learning and deleting stuff continuously.

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com

Thanks Rob.

Yes, my Cinema 7 accepts the 0054 code, but nothing happens on the tuner. I have been told that even the most basic functions need advanced codes, which I've tried, but not with any success. Actually I'm not sure I'm clear on how to do advanced codes.

Could I humbly beg you to walk me thruogh a few examples?

Another thing (probably a dumb question), when learning functions (like I have to do with all my Dishplayer stuff) does like each number key have to be "learned" also or can they be copied over from something else or something to cut down on memory usage?

Again, thanks a lot

Walt

Rob,

I spent 3 hours last night trying to some kind of results from the 0054 code in my C7 for my RCA RV-3798 amp. The C7 accepts the code, but will do absolutly nothing. I tried all the advance codes I have, but nothing. Not even a power on or off or volume. These same advance codes DO work when I switch to my DVD (also an RCA using code 0522).

I've also tried the other rca codes and even code search, but nothing. The only thing that does anything is learning from the origional rca remote and then I run out of memory because of all the dishplayer keys I have learned.

Any other suggestions.

Thanks,

Walt

Walt,

I just put the C7 ($27), 15-1995 ($69 mine was $49 on sale) & RCA RCU810 ($49) remotes thru a test run with my Proscan TV, Kenwood Audio system & Toshiba DVD. For my home theater components, the RCU810 REALLY ROCKS ! out of the box. The RCA remote works better than the original remote for most RCA, GE, Proscan & General Instrument devices. It also works with most dishplayer too although I haven't checked yet. I had difficulty getting the advanced codes to work on the UEI remotes with my Kenwood components too (similar to your trials with the RCA amps). Stop by Best Buy and pick up an RCA RCU810 and give it a test run with your system.

Check out this thread at:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

And then check out these reviews at:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

<<Actually I'm not sure I'm clear on how to do advanced codes.

Could I humbly beg you to walk me through a few examples?>>

Are you saying that the instructions on my site are not clear, or are you saying that you haven't read them? Also, what advanced codes are you using, are you using the codes that i have listed for 0054?

I need to know this stuff in order to best know how to help you.

Let's try programming the MUTE button, the advanced code for which is 187.

1. Press the device key that you have programed 0054 to.
2. Press and hold the SETUP key, wait for two flashes.
3. Type 994, two flashes.
4. Press the SETUP key (don't hold it).
5. Type 187, then press the MUTE button, two flashes.

Now try it, does it work? If you say that it doesn't work, please tell me at which step you failed.

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com

Rob,

I'm sorry if I implied that the instructions arn't clear - they seem fine - yes I've read them. It's just that I can't get anything to work on my RCA RV-3798.

I just tried exactly as you instructed in your last reply to me. The remote accepted everything right up to the 2 flashes at the end of step 5. But nothing.

I have since tried advance codes on my RCA dvd player (code 0522) and they work fine.

I hate to do the 981 reset and start all over with learning all the dishplayer keys, but will try that if you think it will help. I know I've maxed memory at this point (the one blink).

I've tried all the other RCA tuner codes I could find with no sucess. Do you have access to a RV3798 or know for sure that it has worked with the 0054 code ?

I really appreciate your patience here.

Thanks, Walt

I don't have access to an RV3798, the best I can do is to see if someone has saved a file for one in the Pronto file section and then I can download it to see what the codes really look like. There isn't a file for a RV3798 so I checked the codes for something else. If you find a code in the new RCA RCU810 remote that does work your receiver, then I can use that to recreate the codes and see what device code is really being used.

Rob.

I appreciate your intrest here Rob.

I don't have an RCA RCU810, but would condsider getting one if it would solve my problems. Since I have an RCA tuner, DVD & TV, it would probably operate those without using much for code memory, so it would be a matter of how much of the Dishplayer it could "learn" before maxing out.

I'm assuming it won't have a built in code for anything "Dish" since they've left them out in the past (at lease the ones they supply with their equipment).

The RV3798 is a mystery though. I went through this with UEC and my 1918 unit. They downloaded codes over modem and spent hours with me (telephone & forum). I can't remember the guru's name, but he kept insisting that the 054 code would work and people had been sucessful in the past. Finally he admitted that he'd never actually tried it on my particular RCA, just other similar units. So maybe it's just this unit. ??

THanks,
Walt

Walt,
Does your RCA receiver have the ability to work from RF signals? Is it possible that your RCA remote is outputting RF rather than IR to control it? Here's how you would test this, try placing the remote behind the sofa or something that is blocking the direct line of sight to the device and then try using the remote to see if it still works, if it does you are using RF and there isn't a universal in the world that will work for you. Sometimes there is a switch that will toggle between RF and IR.

Assuming that you are using IR, the best I can suggest at this point is that you send me your RCA remote and I will tell you what codes it uses. To do this, you should clear out the C7 (using 980), then learn as many functions from the RCA remote as you can (so that you can still operate your receiver while I have your remote). I will be able to tell you whether the 0054 code is the right code for you or not, it's possible that the code you need is simply not in the C7, but if it is I can tell you what it is. Email me if you're interested.

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com

First off, let me thank you for you taking so much of your time and intrest here.

No the RCA RV3798 isn't RF. In fact I have been able to get the C7 to turn it on / off, volume & mute by "learning" the keys from the origional remote. It's just that when I do that, I don't have enough memory in the C7 left for learning all the Dishplay codes I'd like.

I also was able to get my old Jenson SC555 to do on/off, volume & mute with it's 9056 code. So the RCA is an IR receiver.

It's just strange that I've never been able to get any OFA remote to show any sign of sucess with the RCA (other than learning).

Another interresting thing, the remote that came with my dishplayer (when code is set to operate my RCA 32" TV) will actually turn on both the tv and the RCA tuner and operate the volume & mute on the receiver too. It just won't operate anything else or turn it off (it will the tv, but not the receiver).

As far as sending you my rca remote that came with the receiver, that's fine with me. If I need to I can use any of my origional rca remotes to operate it. I have origional rca remotes for TV, VCR, DVD, & tuner/receiver and they seem to be able to control any of the other rca stuff but none have been able to control any dish stuff. That's one reason the new rca RCU810 may be the way to go IF it has built in codes for dishplayer. ( My wife may not like the idea of me spending $70 on a new remote though since I just got the dishplayer - but then again she might if it'll stop my whineing about this whole thing)

If nothing I've said above has shed any new light on this for you and you don't mind trying, please let me know more about sending you my rca remote.

Thanks again,

Walt

If you canmake your old RCA universals work the receiver, what device code are you using? I have RCA universals too, so I could use one of them to re-create your IR signals, then I wouldn't need to use your original remote.

As for letting you know more about sending me your original remote, what you would do is email me, I'd give you my address, then you'd send me the remote (with return postage). I'd shine it into my computer and see what the IR really looks like and tell you what code you should be using (if one exists), then I'd send it back to you.

Rob.

The old rca universals I refered to are the one's that came with each of my: RCA dvd player; 32" RCA tv; RCA vcr (which I don't use much anymore) and of course the RCA audio receiver we're talking about here.

None of them required me to enter any codes, they all worked the the audio receiver (the RCA RV3798) and all the other RCA stuff just as they came. I'll provide you the model numbers of all these rca devices and aprox year I bought them:

RCA 32" TV F32685 Bought new 9/99
RCA DVD RC5220P Bought new 9/99
RCA Audio receiver RV-3798 Bought new 7/98
RCA VCR VR691HF Bought new 9/98

Other things that may shed some light:

My Cinema 7 WILL work the the RCA DVD with code 0522 and the origional remote for that dvd player WILL operate the RCA RV3798 audio receiver we're talking about without any codes being entered.

The manual for the DVD doesn't list any device codes other than tv and under rca it lists:
1000,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007,1019,1096,1098,1099,1100,1101,1102,1103,1129,1179,1181,1187,1188 & 1190

The C7 WILL also operate the RCA TV without any programing or code sets - I found this out when I did a 981 reset on the C7 and found it worked the tv fine.

I had previously used code 0047 for the tv but didn't bother adding it since it works fine without it. The origional remote for the tv also works the audio receiver without any code entering. (The manual for the tv lists the following codes under rca audio though:
am/fm 4003; Aux 4004; Phone 4005; CD 4007; Tape
4006)

Now the audio codes listed in the RV3798 audio receiver manual for RCA (which of course I never needed) are:
AMP: 024; AM/FM: 003; CD: 007, 043, 044; TAPE: 006; PHONO: 005; AUX: 004 & 054

Does any of this help and please pardon me if I deluged you with more than you needed.

Thanks again,

Walt

Actually Walt, not of that helped me.

I would need for you to actually program one of those codes into one of your RCA remotes and see if it still works. Giving me a list of a hundred codes doesn't do my any good as I don't have an RCA receiver to test them on.

Remember what the end goal is here. I need you to find a code that you can program into one of your remotes and have it work your receiver, I will then program the same code into one of my remotes and take a look at it to see what it really is. I realise that the default code works your receiver in most cases, but I would still need to know what that default code is if I'm going to spend time testing it.

I'm a little confused here Rob, so please bear with me.

Are the rca universal remotes you have the origional ones that came with an RCA component or RCA brand universal remotes that they sell at stores (Like the RCA System Link 4 (Called RCUSAT1 On the manual cover) and those types?

The ones' I have, except for a System Link 4, are origional equipment remotes and have different codes listed for rca devices in each respective manual. And each manual lists different codes.

As near as I can tell, probably any rca brand remote you have will work my amp right out of the box - these all do.

As far as programing a code from their respective manuals, since each manual lists different codes for rca audio equipment, don't you and I have to be using the same remote (like both SystemLink4's or both RCA TV remotes, for this to work? In other words, if I program a code into my RCA TV remote, it's going to be different than what they list for rca codes in the manual for say the RCA vcr remote.

I'll assume you have a systemlink4 remote available for now.

Now without any programing it'll run basic functions on the audio receiver:

"On" by pressing the device button (not power). You press the "tv" button, it turns both my tv on and amp on in "tv mode". Volume runs volume on both the amp and the tv; same with mute. Now if you press a different device button, say "dvd", since the amp is already on, it just changes the amp to "dvd mode" and turns on the dvd player. Same with vcr.

Now to turn anything off, you have to press the "power" button twice within a few seconds.

Now the "aux" button, without any codes does nothing but the manual says it can be programed to operate other devices including (amps, rca=056 & receivers, rca=057 & 135 ).

Trouble is, in the instructions it says press code search, then the aux button, then the "button of the device you want to program". I'm not sure I understand this since there is no button for amp or receiver. I'm kinda stuck here. I did try fooling around with 056, 057 & 135 and the aux button, but no luck.

This Systemlink4 does have a code retrieval function. Factory defaults (I removed batteries to reset the unit) are: 048 for tv; 000 for vcr; and 071 for sat.

I tried programing the aux button as a tv using 048. It seems to now do pretty much the same as the regular "tv" mode except it won't power on. I can turn the tv & amp both off with a double power click however pressing "aux" does not turn the amp on like pressing the actual "tv" device button does.

Hopfully this gives you something to go on.

I can live with getting basic amp functions like on, off, volume & mute if I can just get the C7 to accept a code that will do that without using up learning memory. I think that would free up enough memory so I could get the rest of the dishplayer stuff learned.

Thanks again Rob

Walt