I have an 8810 and just got the new HD TIVO. This device seems to use the VCR 0618 codes. Most of the buttons work well with this device, such as the numbers, arrows, and transport buttons. But a number of others don't. I have gotten the advanced codes from hifi-remote, and trying to use them gives no response. Either doing an actual key move or just trying * + code gives no response. If I learn the code it works fine, and if I decode it with IR, it is indeed the code I have been trying to use.

I can do programming with JP1, but each of the PVR upgrades needs to use a protocol upgrade. I already have an extensive protocol upgrade from several other devices, and I don't really want to change it. It seems using 0618 with some key moves would be a lot better. I don't want to learn the codes because I am essentially out of learned memory.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

SMK

The version of code 0618 preset into the 8810 doesn't accept advanced codes. It's either learn the few missing commands or JP1 it.

If I use a new device with JP1, my next question would be, which fixed data do I use for the protocol upgrade? What I mean is that if I use Devices4, it gives me one set of fixed data for 0618, but if I try to set keymap master to one of the TIVO protocols, they each use different fixed data. Which do I use?

TIA

SMK

My next answer is to move this question to the JP1 forum.:) I can't help you with anything JP1.

If you select the "Tivo Official" protocol in KM it will use the built in protocol, but your device upgrade will be twice as big as it would if you were to use the hacked protocol.

However, you could let KM figure out the hex codes for you, then you could program 2-byte keymoves using hex codes.

It's generally a good idea to ask JP1 questions in the JP1 forum as there are more JP1 experts congregated there.

Rob
http://www.hifi-remote.com

Rob's answer is correct, but maybe unclear.

Forget Devices4. Fixed data is part of a "device upgrade", not part of a "protocol upgrade" and you shouldn't need to worry about it (KM gets it right) and you especially shouldn't need to compare KM's values to Devices4's.

If you create a whole upgrade, you probably should use the protocol version (in KM) that creates a smaller device upgrade even though that also requires a protocol upgrade.

Alternately, you can keep 0618 and just use KeyMoves to fix any missing functions. As Edmund said, you can't define those KeyMoves on the remote itself and for the same reason you can't use the usual EFC mode of KeyMove definition in IR.EXE. You CAN use the hex command form of KeyMove definition in IR.EXE. AS Rob said, you can use KM to compute the hex commands for those KeyMoves. Start to define an upgrade using "Tivo Official", taking the process just far enough to enter the OBCs of the missing commands on the functions sheet, so you can read out the hex commands.

John,

Thanks for the additional help. I may try the hex form to see if I can do this. The problem is that I already have a 5-device protocol upgrade using the device combiner protcool. I can add one more, I guess. I again wouldn't know which fixed data and which protocol ID are the best to use. Eliminating the one from Devices4, there are still the "Official" versus the "advanced" for TIVO and they have slightly different protocol IDs. If I decide to do key moves, I can probably get the HEX codes from one of the PVR protocols already in the Yahoo group.

In any event, thanks for help from everyone. I will see what I can do, and if I have further questions, I will proceed to the JP1 forum.

SMK