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| Topic: | Harmony unveils next-generation remote -- Harmony One This thread has 199 replies. Displaying posts 136 through 150. |
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| Post 136 made on Thursday January 31, 2008 at 11:34 |
ShoutingMan Long Time Member |
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Remote auto lights when moved. I haven't watched a movie yet, but I don't anticipate problems using this in the dark.
The control buttons work well for the Tivo. The only thing I notice is that the remote is a shave slower than the Tivo; a fraction of second slower in registering Fast-Forward button presses. But my wife said she didn't notice anything. And maybe I can tweak the settings to speed it up?
The Tivo remote is an unusually well-designed remote, so even the best universal will have some tradeoffs compared to it. The main loss is the "Tivo" button is a soft button, and not quite so easy to press.
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| Post 137 made on Thursday January 31, 2008 at 17:13 |
Lee L Long Time Member |
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On January 29, 2008 at 13:32, jlet said...
To elaborate a bit more, the "number of repeats" (now
nameless) parameter is under: "Device > Troubleshoot >
xx responds to some commands either too many times or
only occasionally". Thanks, I will check there. I figured it would be in the Adjust the Delays area. I adjusted this down to 1 and it helped a decent amount. I will go to zero the next time I have a chance. I will have to say that the page referenced was about as unclear as I can imagine it being and they really need to reveiw the wording of it. Stuff like "if the device responds too much, lower the setting, if it does not respond enough or at all, raise the setting" are not really getting accross what you are changing and what the effect may potentially be. I see now that the remote was sending the same code several times in rapid succession and the HR20 was seeing it as one command, so reducing the repats made the remote move on to the next code more quickly.
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on February 1, 2008 13:50.
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| Post 138 made on Thursday January 31, 2008 at 21:02 |
Geil Long Time Member |
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| Post 139 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 07:12 |
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On January 31, 2008 at 11:34, ShoutingMan said...
The Tivo remote is an unusually well-designed remote,
so even the best universal will have some tradeoffs compared
to it. The main loss is the "Tivo" button is a soft button,
and not quite so easy to press. Use the MENU button for the "TiVo" button. It's much easier to access as a hard button ...
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| Post 140 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 15:43 |
MillsapsPE Lurking Member |
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Can anyone recommend a place to buy other than Amazon, BB, or CC? surfremotecontrol doesn't seem to carry it.
I have a MX-700, but I seem to have misplaced my cable to program it. I have a number of new pieces (Samsung TV & DVD player, DirecTV HR21-700 & R15, Wii) I need to program and would like to get back to "one" remote.
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| Post 141 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 18:36 |
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On February 1, 2008 at 15:43, MillsapsPE said...
Can anyone recommend a place to buy other than Amazon,
BB, or CC? surfremotecontrol doesn't seem to carry it.
I have a MX-700, but I seem to have misplaced my cable
to program it. I have a number of new pieces (Samsung
TV & DVD player, DirecTV HR21-700 & R15, Wii) I need to
program and would like to get back to "one" remote. [Link: bhphotovideo.com]
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| Post 142 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 18:41 |
todd1010 Long Time Member |
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I can't wait til they make this remote with RF. That would seal the deal for me over the URC MX810.
Has anyone actually asked Logitech on their release of a model with RF?
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| Post 143 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 19:48 |
akirby Super Member |
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Why is RF better than an IR repeater? IR repeaters allow ANY remote to control your equipment including the OEM remotes, and the remotes themselves are cheaper. With a RF harmony that's all you can use.
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| Post 144 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 22:45 |
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On February 1, 2008 at 19:48, akirby said...
Why is RF better than an IR repeater? IR repeaters allow
ANY remote to control your equipment including the OEM
remotes, and the remotes themselves are cheaper. With
a RF harmony that's all you can use. I have a projector, and use a rather tall "audio rack" behind the couch with the projector on-top -- the only components in front of me are the 3 front speakers. An IR repeater will not work in my environment. If you have a closed cabinet (as I built a couple of houses ago) and no components showing, having the IR repeater out would ruin the look, and may be harder to incorporate than an RF system. RF means you don't have to lift the remote off of the table, no matter what's in front of it, which is rather convenient when I have the laptop on the table, and the remote closer to me than it. If I'm walking around the room with the remote in my hand, I don't have to turn around, find line-of-site, then hit "mute" when my phone rings. I'm tired of typing reasons, but I haven't run out of them... just because *you* can't use it, doesn't mean it's not useful.
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| Post 145 made on Friday February 1, 2008 at 23:44 |
Bierboy Long Time Member |
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On January 30, 2008 at 22:43, ShoutingMan said...
An early and quick review of the Harmony One.
The new Logitech Harmony One is available in stores: I
bought one tonight. Here's a quick review.
This is my first high-end remote. My remote for the past
8 years is the marvelous Radio Shack 15-1994. But as much
as I like it, it's showing its age: it doesn't support
my new Tivo and my wife gets frustrated the limited macros
I can create for it.
So, thanks to gift cards and coupons, we decided to upgrade
to the One. I'm a fan of hard-button remotes; touch-screen
remotes have never appealed to me. But their flexibility
is not to be denied. The One looked like it might strike
near perfect balance: well designed hard-button layout
with an attracive touch-screen LCD for to complete the
control system.
Setup was easy: After installing the control software
and having charged the remote in its base station, I plugged
it in with a USB cord and ran the control software. It
walked me through setting up an account -- this is all
done with a web-driven app, so internet access is necessary
it seems.
The software asks for the model numbers of my electronics.
Five minutes with a flashlight peering at the back of
my TV, etc got that data. It identified correctly my TV,
DVD, and receiver. It had troubles with the Tivo.
It took me through a series of steps to determine what
I the device was: it told me to aim the Tivo remote at
the rear of the One and press the power button. And here
is a very clever feature: the input sensor, to read codes
from other remotes is at the tail of the One. Rather than
facing them head to head and trying to press buttons upside
down on one of the remotes, you aim the old remote at
the bottom of the One, so they are both easily managed.
After pressing a few more buttons, the software asked
me a couple more questions, and then gave me its, correct,
recommendation for what it thought the Tivo was.
With my four devices identified, it asked what activities
I'd like to have. It suggested: Watch Tivo, Watch DVD,
Listen to Radio, and Listen to CD. I accepted these as
is. It programmed my remote, and I unplugged the cable.
And the One gave a tutorial on its LCD!
Tutorial over, the remote went to its normal activity
screen. Three LCD buttons were shown for Watch DVD, Listen
Radio, Listen CD; tapping the side arrow took me to the
second screen with Watch Tivo. And activities are the
magic, the feature that my wife wanted. The One is smart,
tracking what's on and off, and what their settings are.
Pressing Watch Tivo turns the TV and receiver on, and
sets the various inputs correctly. The LCD then changes
to show Tivo-specific options. And the hard-buttons control
the Tivo. Volume "punch-through" was correctly set --
that is, controlling the volume by the receiver is also
automatic, setup during the software process. Tapping
the Activities hard button and then the Watch DVD toggles
receiver and TV inputs and turns on the DVD player. Changing
to Listen Radio turns off the TV and DVD, and sets the
radio to FM.
A quick test of buttons for the DVD, Tivo, and Radio found
that all the important features were set correctly and
sensibly. There remain a few secondary buttons that I
need to determine how to set; for example, the "info"
button to show the time-remaining on DVDs did get programmed.
Next, I need to learn how to add custom buttons and rearrange
buttons on the LCD screen.
It took about 30 minutes to setup the One; most of that
was simple button clicking in the guided software tool.
It was almost disappointing, it was so easy. My old 15-1994
was practically a hobby, programming it could take hours
of trial and error. I created custom button maps to remember
what the half-size "LAST" button did in the various modes.
In contrast, the One just worked. There's a bit more work
to do to get it just right. But I could leave it alone
and probably be just fine.
The One is pricey at $250. But if you need a good remote,
partcularly one the whole family can use without cheat
sheets or remembering arcane button mappings, the One
is a good way to get to just one remote. While I'm sure we all appreciate your review, and we're glad you like the One, nearly everything you mention about it applies to most Harmony remotes (and they're all less expensive than the One) . That's the beauty of the Harmony.
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| Post 146 made on Saturday February 2, 2008 at 05:29 |
amorenod Long Time Member |
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On February 1, 2008 at 22:45, jcf said...
I have a projector, and use a rather tall "audio rack"
behind the couch with the projector on-top -- the only
components in front of me are the 3 front speakers. An
IR repeater will not work in my environment.
If you have a closed cabinet (as I built a couple of houses
ago) and no components showing, having the IR repeater
out would ruin the look, and may be harder to incorporate
than an RF system.
RF means you don't have to lift the remote off of the
table, no matter what's in front of it, which is rather
convenient when I have the laptop on the table, and the
remote closer to me than it.
If I'm walking around the room with the remote in my hand,
I don't have to turn around, find line-of-site, then hit
"mute" when my phone rings.
I'm tired of typing reasons, but I haven't run out of
them... just because *you* can't use it, doesn't mean
it's not useful. Exactly, no line of sight worries, which is quite useful for long macros, no need to point the remote anywhere.
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| Post 147 made on Saturday February 2, 2008 at 09:49 |
TommyV Long Time Member |
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Man this remote looks sweet! I can't wait until they come out with a RF/Z-Wave model to replace my 890. I will be all over it! Any word on how soon they may be coming out with the "One RF".
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| Post 148 made on Saturday February 2, 2008 at 10:12 |
TommyV Long Time Member |
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On February 1, 2008 at 19:48, akirby said...
Why is RF better than an IR repeater? IR repeaters allow
ANY remote to control your equipment including the OEM
remotes, and the remotes themselves are cheaper. With
a RF harmony that's all you can use. akirby, which IR repeater would you suggest? Some of my gear is not in line of sight. Right now I am using the Z-Wave wireless extender which works great.
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| Post 149 made on Saturday February 2, 2008 at 10:34 |
akirby Super Member |
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On February 2, 2008 at 10:12, TommyV said...
akirby, which IR repeater would you suggest? Some of my
gear is not in line of sight. Right now I am using the
Z-Wave wireless extender which works great. The hotlink pro is a good entry level simple system. I'm using Niles components - you can get those at Crutchfield.
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| Post 150 made on Saturday February 2, 2008 at 10:41 |
akirby Super Member |
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There is no reason why you can't use an IR repeater. The receiver can be as small as a dime and can be hidden in a cabinet frame, mounted in a wall box or even on the ceiling.
The Harmony RF extender does have one useful feature (that most people don't need): the ability to control 2 identical devices independently.
And I understand that it's nice to not need to point the remote at a receiver, but is that such a big deal?
Being able to use ANY remote is a big plus in my book. I can switch from a Harmony to a HTM or back to the OEM remotes with no problems.
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