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Post 1 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 05:15
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Iíd like to review current TIA residential wiring standards, which I believe are covered in TIA-570-C. Is my best bet to fork over the money to buy the standards document, or are there other more efficient and cost effective ways to approach this.

I spent a chunk of time searching on the web, but I didnít find a clear path emerging on how to go about this. Thx.
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Post 2 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 10:53
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On July 13, 2019 at 05:15, crosen said...
Iíd like to review current TIA residential wiring standards, which I believe are covered in TIA-570-C. Is my best bet to fork over the money to buy the standards document, or are there other more efficient and cost effective ways to approach this.

I spent a chunk of time searching on the web, but I didnít find a clear path emerging on how to go about this. Thx.

You can read NEC articles online- if you adhere to them, anything you do in resi wiring should be more than adequate and probably better than what the competition does.

Google 'NEC grounding requirements', 'NEC communication wiring' and look into BICSI.

[Link: csemag.com]

[Link: bicsi.org]
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Post 3 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 14:40
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These sources cover most of it

[Link: leviton.com]

Ron Kipper Datacom / Ideal Industries
Search for him on you tube

CEDIA Wiring Standards

NEC and BICSI as stated above

What is missing is an installation best practice white paper/book
Which I suppose comes from the school of hard knocks
Post 4 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 14:55
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On July 13, 2019 at 14:40, ShaferCustoms said...
These sources cover most of it

[Link: leviton.com]

Ron Kipper Datacom / Ideal Industries
Search for him on you tube

CEDIA Wiring Standards

NEC and BICSI as stated above

What is missing is an installation best practice white paper/book
Which I suppose comes from the school of hard knocks

I guess we should all go to CEDIA and take their courses, eh?

BICSI has week-long training sessions that aren't cheap, they're more in-depth than CEDIA and it's more IP-based but they do cover installation practices. The techniques of opening walls, ceilings and getting wiring from one place to another without damaging something else is where the hard knocks come in, but it would seem that the more alert electrician apprentices would be good people to hire for LV, as long as they can be made to understand how and why it's different from HV. I would also teach DC theory to them. Some general construction experience/knowledge would come in handy, too.
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Post 5 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 15:15
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On July 13, 2019 at 14:55, highfigh said...
I guess we should all go to CEDIA and take their courses, eh?

If you search online, with the correct terms, valuable information can be found

CEDIA Wiring Standards

The live courses can be good also
I have gained much info from classes taken from many sources, most often at very little to zero cost, except time
Post 6 made on Saturday July 13, 2019 at 15:41
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On July 13, 2019 at 15:15, ShaferCustoms said...
If you search online, with the correct terms, valuable information can be found

CEDIA Wiring Standards

The live courses can be good also
I have gained much info from classes taken from many sources, most often at very little to zero cost, except time

I should have put a smiley face on that. "...at very little to zero cost"- to you , or your employer? I have worked for myself since 2003- EVERYTHING has a cost, including the time when I could have been working and no revenue came in while was away. They have classes that are pricey- good thing for employers that they pay for these or nobody would go.

I went in 2005- the pinhead where I worked told the owner I should go to the Audio Setup and Calibration class- total waste of my time and their money. Also sent us to the Video Setup and Calibration class, which was really more for bench and video field techs, not installers. The class with Bill Whitlock from Jensen transformers is always worthwhile, if he still teaches it.

I worked with a guy who had gone to the CEDIA installer's boot camp and he would frequently say "We didn't cover this at boot camp" when we had to deal with some kind of odd construction method that required creative solutions.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 7 made on Sunday July 14, 2019 at 18:35
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Long ago, I came in to fix a commercial job which went south.

The IT guy punched down all of the Cat5e jacks at the patch panel using T568B.

The electrician installed all of the wall plates throughout the building using T568A.

This resulted in nothing but a building filled with cross-over cables.
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Post 8 made on Monday July 15, 2019 at 10:10
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On July 14, 2019 at 18:35, davidcasemore said...
Long ago, I came in to fix a commercial job which went south.

The IT guy punched down all of the Cat5e jacks at the patch panel using T568B.

The electrician installed all of the wall plates throughout the building using T568A.

This resulted in nothing but a building filled with cross-over cables.

Ran into that in a house- we were told to use 568B for everything, but residential network modules for structured wiring had been spec'd and punched down 568A. The guy who was re-assigning the pairs at the module gave me a hard time about it, even though he was there when we were told which standard to use and he was the one who punched them down.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 9 made on Monday July 15, 2019 at 10:47
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Where's Wesley when you need him....
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Post 10 made on Tuesday July 16, 2019 at 10:12
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On July 15, 2019 at 10:47, Greg C said...
Where's Wesley when you need him....

Oh, crap- you just used the Bat Signal.
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Post 11 made on Wednesday July 17, 2019 at 04:10
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On July 15, 2019 at 10:47, Greg C said...
Where's Wesley when you need him....

The ORIGINAL from 2009:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

And the brave reboot from 2011:

[Link: remotecentral.com]
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Post 12 made on Wednesday July 17, 2019 at 18:22
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On July 17, 2019 at 04:10, Ernie Gilman said...
The ORIGINAL from 2009:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

And the brave reboot from 2011:

[Link: remotecentral.com]

Nice; I have a 12 hour flight coming up. Now I donít have to buy the book Great Again at the airport.


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